• RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Funny how we addressed the tool that helped black kids first, rather than the one that hurt them.

    Maybe it’s because this is being pushed by bad people, that you seem to agree with under some fantasy of “100% merit based” reality.

    Systemic biases exist, AA compensated for them banking AA is basically pretending this nation isn’t racist AF.

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      1 year ago

      the tool that helped black kids

      I’m sure it did help them, just like systemic racism prior to affirmative action helped white kids. When there’s a limited number of spots available, every person that is “helped” in either situation results in someone else who didn’t get in because they were the wrong color, and that’s just plain wrong.

      We don’t need to fight racism with more racism - that just increases the number of victims of injustice.

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        1 year ago

        Our entire society is plain wrong, doing things to address those injustices is good actually.

        P.s you can’t be “racist” against white people, in a white supremacists nation.

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            1 year ago

            It’s very difficult. Discriminating against white people in a fundamentally white supremacist society (which the US is) is a bit like farting in a hurricane. I mean… do you see footage of black cops casually murdering white people at least once every week?

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                1 year ago

                Your unwillingness to acknowledge it doesn’t make it any less true - the US was built on white supremacism. Whether it can actually exist without white supremacism is an unknown and perhaps worth debating - but what it is right now is no mystery.

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                    1 year ago

                    What kind of white supremacist country would have let a black man named Barack Obama anywhere near presidency?

                    The fact that the US is failing at repressing black people doesn’t mean the US isn’t inherently white supremacist - just like the fact that the US was defeated in Vietnam and Afghanistan doesn’t mean the US isn’t fundamentally a colonialist empire. In both cases, the answer is in the affirmative - the US is fundamentally white supremacist and it is fundamentally colonialist. The fact that it has failed at both on many occasions doesn’t negate the truth of that. Apartheid-South Africa was similarly fundamentally white supremacist - the fact that it failed to repress it’s black population doesn’t suddenly mean that Apartheid-South Africa wasn’t fundamentally white supremacist.

                    You seem to believe that the fact that the long struggle black (and other people) have had to wage in the US simply to be seen as human (somehow) “proves” that the US isn’t fundamentally white supremacist while completely ignoring the blatantly obvious reason why such struggles was necessary in the first damn place and are still ongoing.

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                    1 year ago

                    LMAO “we solved racism cuz Obama”

                    The US is still a white supremacists nation where white lives are placed above non-black lives, you can bury your head in the sand but systemic racism is very much real.

                    You can pretend you care about class, but if you’re analysis of the material conditions ignore the fundamental structure of the US, you’re not helping anyone.