Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).

It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.

My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you’re not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.

I’ve linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325

Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.

https://lemmy.world/post/747912

https://lemmy.world/post/577526

Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.

Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.

TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.

EDIT: To clarify, this isn’t the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.

EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.

  • nanoUFO
    45·
    1 year ago

    obvious apologist accounts and their bad faith arguments to protect their friends

    Ignoring the whole defederation debate this just seem like anti intellectual rhetoric designed to shut down debate because you feel the users aren’t valid?

    but I’m deeply unimpressed with how this has all been handled

    You do know that in this instance we vote so stuff so you are just unimpressed with the users not siding with you?

    • socialjusticewizard
      112·
      1 year ago
      • Not every dissenting opinion is an obvious apologist account. If it were, you wouldn’t see me through this thread all over the place having what I consider productive discussion with other people who have differing opinions.
      • Within the post you just quoted, I explained why I am unimpressed. In the replies, I explained it far more. I find it a little hard to believe you could read what I wrote even in that one post and come up with that reply in good faith, but if you’d like to hear what I mean in more detail, try reading the copious explanation I’ve added in this very thread over the last six hours.

      Frankly, I think the evidence thus far suggests that users do side with me, so your hostility is both unwarranted and kind of nonsensical.

      • nanoUFO
        38·
        1 year ago

        dissenting opinion is an obvious apologist account.

        Because that was obvious from your post which people you consider to be peoples friends/bot accounts.

        so your hostility is both unwarranted and kind of nonsensical.

        Yes because I’m hostile because I responded to your hostile post.

        try reading the copious explanation I’ve added in this very thread over the last six hours.

        I don’t feel strongly enough about the issue to read through dozens of your posts to recontextualize your opinion on the issue. I was just addressing your tone in your original message and that hasn’t change in fact in my opinion it got worse.

        My hostility? The only reason I responded to you, is I found your comment to be hostile in general.

        Either way we obviously do not like each other so I’m not going to continue having a discussion with you. You find me hostile I find you hostile, I just wanted to address your original post.

        • socialjusticewizard
          91·
          1 year ago

          You want me to explain myself, but don’t want to read what I say. I don’t quite know how you figure that will work, but I appreciate you being up front about it I suppose.