Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).

It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.

My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you’re not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.

I’ve linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325

Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.

https://lemmy.world/post/747912

https://lemmy.world/post/577526

Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.

Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.

TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.

EDIT: To clarify, this isn’t the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.

EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.

    • carrot
      623·
      2 years ago

      What Nazis? Stop devaluing real Nazism as a term for right wingers.

      • meldroc
        174·
        2 years ago

        The only difference between today’s MAGA movement and the OG Nazis is the branding.

      • Revelrous
        122·
        2 years ago

        They’re chanting ‘blood and soil’ at alt-right marches. That’s a do not pass go or collect $200 straight up nazi thing.

        • carrot
          213·
          2 years ago

          When did Make America Great Again Republicans chant blood and soil at an alt right march?

          • Revelrous
            121·
            2 years ago

            Charlottesville. The rally that was organized on t_d.

            The one that trump said had a lot of very nice people. *

              • Revelrous
                121·
                2 years ago

                https://archive.ph/20170805203139/https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6rsng3/unite_the_right_in_charlottesville_next_week/

                This post was stickied to the subreddit. Things got scrubbed after that girl was murdered. *

                thread locked. edit reply below

                This clear evidence of the alt-right going all in with nazis.

                In this case, the pursuit of preserving without shame white culture, our goals happen to align. […] We need to save civilization first, we can argue about the exact details later.

                And then in the upvoted comments:

                So glad this got stickied. And to those of you who don’t like the Alt-Right well guess what. The left is going to call us (like they’ve always been) Racist, Homophobic, Antisemetic, Uncle Tom, Alt-Righters anyway might as well War it. I mean what happened we wore the term Deplorable like a badge of honor.

                Exactly. Anything to the right of Elizabeth warren is already a nazi ready to gas six trillion Jews so might as well say fuck it. The enemies of my enemy are my friends

                Remember, the left doesn’t care if you are or aren’t racist. They don’t want you to have a nice life, they don’t care about your concerns or opinions. They want you dead, your children dead.

                I wish I could be there!

                Me too!

                Become part of it in other ways. I can’t make it either but I have thrown a few dollars toward groups that are going for lodging and travel expenses. Spreading the event details to other Trump supporters is also a way you can help

                In the text and by actions t_d leadership and members are clearly identifying this rally as a white supremacist cause and are embracing the rhetoric, giving it a platform, and encouraging others to join in. This is one of the largest online communities in support of the then president endorsing this rally from the top down. After the attack it would take trump days to come close to a condemnation. These are not fringe sentiments held within the MAGA community. I have not seen anything from exploding heads to lead me to believe it is less extreme, kinder, gentler conservatism.

          • Gone Quill
            92·
            2 years ago

            Charlottesville, 2017. As you might recall, they also committed an act of terrorism and killed a woman