10/10 times somebody seethes at the idea of merely listening to ideas that they might dislike or disagree with is some extremist whacko who gets all their information from a heavily vetted and censored echo chambers.
It literally doesn’t matter. Blocking yourself off from any ideas, no matter how tame or how extreme is something that’s both sad and dangerous. Willful ignorance is a poison. It’s not a sign of purity or strength, it’s a sign of fear and weakness.
Nah, sod off. We’ve fought wars over some of these “ideas”. We don’t need to rehash them until the end of time. We hear more diverse ideas from the diverse people who are allowed to thrive by removing a tiny handful of bigoted opinions.
Why do you want to silence those diverse people and their varied opinions? Are you scared of their ideas? Are you a weak little coward?
We’ve fought wars over some of these “ideas”. We don’t need to rehash them until the end of time. We hear more diverse ideas from the diverse people who are allowed to thrive by removing a tiny handful of bigoted opinions.
First of all, you didn’t fight shit. Second of all, you can’t “remove” opinions, you can’t eradicate ideas, and you can’t wipe out views. This has been tried time and time again throughout the ages and censorship ALWAYS fails. Why? You can’t people change their minds by force. The one and only way to make people change their minds is by talking to them, understanding why they think the way they do, and by exposing them to new ideas and experiences that challenge their views.
This is how a black man in the 1980s managed to convince dozens of KKK klansmen to give up their robes. He didn’t try to censor them, he didn’t try to “remove” them, he didn’t try to talk down to them, he didn’t try to virtue signal, he didn’t try to lecture them, and he didn’t try convince them of anything. He just sat down with them, asked questions, and listened to them to try understand why they think the way they do. He was scared of them and they were scared of him. But by talking to them this man, Daryl Davis, managed to expose these people to new ideas. His questions helped challenge their own views, his presence helped break down stereotypes that they held, his curiosity and sociable attitude made him likable and relatable. He showed them that they can be friends with someone of a different race, that coexistence with people from different races can work, and that being a different race doesn’t make you any less of a man. That’s how they came to the realization that their racist beliefs weren’t right and gave up their robes.
Davis didn’t endorse the views of the KKK, he didn’t support the racism, and he wasn’t a klansman. Talking to them didn’t change his views and it didn’t make him supportive of the KKK. This rotten mentality of guilt by association is stupid, especially when it’s coupled with the equally as stupid mentality of trying to achieve political purity. If you actually care about making a change then you have to put aside the theatrics and reflect on why this man was so successful in making people change their minds and why you’re not. By casting off and segregating people into rigid categories, you’re turning yourself into the thing you claim to be against. This type of mentality is what led the KKK to think the way they do. The kkk thought that associating with a black person made you a race traitor, that their communities needed to be pure of any interracial mixing, and that their views are the right ones no matter what and any white person who disagreed with them is either ignorant or evil.
Keep in mind, the point of talking to people is to have them exposed to new ideas and to establish a common ground that can be used as a foundation for understanding. That’s how you have people shift from blind ideological fanaticism to pragmatism. That’s how you have ignorant bigots turn into empathic people. There will never be a 100% conversion rate or a complete eradication of anything. Some people will be bigots no matter what, and that’s fine. If talking to bigots manages to turn half into not being bigots anymore that’s a win. Actually changing the mind of just one bigot into not being a bigot is a win. If you approach people with an open mind and develop an understanding, you are much more likely to give them that experience that would lead them change their minds.
Why do you want to silence those diverse people and their varied opinions? Are you scared of their ideas? Are you a weak little coward?
Nah man I just don’t care. I’m not going to effortpost for you. I don’t owe you a debate. And I don’t care what you think. You aren’t an ally of mine. Your opinion of how I advocate for my own life means literally nothing to me. You are ignorant of history, and you don’t have my interests at heart, so what you want is irrelevant to me.
10/10 times somebody seethes at the idea of merely listening to ideas that they might dislike or disagree with is some extremist whacko who gets all their information from a heavily vetted and censored echo chambers.
Which ideas? Be specific :)
It literally doesn’t matter. Blocking yourself off from any ideas, no matter how tame or how extreme is something that’s both sad and dangerous. Willful ignorance is a poison. It’s not a sign of purity or strength, it’s a sign of fear and weakness.
Nah, sod off. We’ve fought wars over some of these “ideas”. We don’t need to rehash them until the end of time. We hear more diverse ideas from the diverse people who are allowed to thrive by removing a tiny handful of bigoted opinions.
Why do you want to silence those diverse people and their varied opinions? Are you scared of their ideas? Are you a weak little coward?
First of all, you didn’t fight shit. Second of all, you can’t “remove” opinions, you can’t eradicate ideas, and you can’t wipe out views. This has been tried time and time again throughout the ages and censorship ALWAYS fails. Why? You can’t people change their minds by force. The one and only way to make people change their minds is by talking to them, understanding why they think the way they do, and by exposing them to new ideas and experiences that challenge their views.
This is how a black man in the 1980s managed to convince dozens of KKK klansmen to give up their robes. He didn’t try to censor them, he didn’t try to “remove” them, he didn’t try to talk down to them, he didn’t try to virtue signal, he didn’t try to lecture them, and he didn’t try convince them of anything. He just sat down with them, asked questions, and listened to them to try understand why they think the way they do. He was scared of them and they were scared of him. But by talking to them this man, Daryl Davis, managed to expose these people to new ideas. His questions helped challenge their own views, his presence helped break down stereotypes that they held, his curiosity and sociable attitude made him likable and relatable. He showed them that they can be friends with someone of a different race, that coexistence with people from different races can work, and that being a different race doesn’t make you any less of a man. That’s how they came to the realization that their racist beliefs weren’t right and gave up their robes.
Davis didn’t endorse the views of the KKK, he didn’t support the racism, and he wasn’t a klansman. Talking to them didn’t change his views and it didn’t make him supportive of the KKK. This rotten mentality of guilt by association is stupid, especially when it’s coupled with the equally as stupid mentality of trying to achieve political purity. If you actually care about making a change then you have to put aside the theatrics and reflect on why this man was so successful in making people change their minds and why you’re not. By casting off and segregating people into rigid categories, you’re turning yourself into the thing you claim to be against. This type of mentality is what led the KKK to think the way they do. The kkk thought that associating with a black person made you a race traitor, that their communities needed to be pure of any interracial mixing, and that their views are the right ones no matter what and any white person who disagreed with them is either ignorant or evil.
Keep in mind, the point of talking to people is to have them exposed to new ideas and to establish a common ground that can be used as a foundation for understanding. That’s how you have people shift from blind ideological fanaticism to pragmatism. That’s how you have ignorant bigots turn into empathic people. There will never be a 100% conversion rate or a complete eradication of anything. Some people will be bigots no matter what, and that’s fine. If talking to bigots manages to turn half into not being bigots anymore that’s a win. Actually changing the mind of just one bigot into not being a bigot is a win. If you approach people with an open mind and develop an understanding, you are much more likely to give them that experience that would lead them change their minds.
https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-straw-man/
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Just gonna be blunt, I don’t give a rat’s ass to read some bad-faith dimwit tell me how I need to behave when advocating for my own right to exist.
Kindly sod all the way off into the sun.
This is exactly the type of intelligence that I was expecting from someone who’s willfully ignorant and bigoted.
Nah man I just don’t care. I’m not going to effortpost for you. I don’t owe you a debate. And I don’t care what you think. You aren’t an ally of mine. Your opinion of how I advocate for my own life means literally nothing to me. You are ignorant of history, and you don’t have my interests at heart, so what you want is irrelevant to me.
You’re proving my previous comment down to the letter