• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    Russia isn’t going bankrupt.

    What might happen is they just run out of bodies and the country collapses into civil war, 1917 style. Petrostates don’t go bankrupt, they collapse violently.

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      1 year ago

      Potato patoto, regardless Ukraine can claim victory. If Russia runs out of manpower and implodes id consider that a win.

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          The citizens? Irrelevent, unless it can gain notable strategic advantages IE Dresden. The Conscripts? Yes. They could turn their rifles at any time they couldve draft dodged but they didnt, they deserve same as the Japanese, Germans, and Italians during WW2.

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            No no, I mean civilians are going to die if Russia actually collapsed like that. That’s a bad thing.

            I have the radical belief that death is bad. I guess liberals are too bloodthirsty for the flesh of “orcs” to remember the human cost of endless war.

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              Dude im a socialist, aint a liberal. I just happen to be bloodthirsty and of the opinion that a collapsed Russia is also a declawed Russia. They cant exactly conquer other nations if theyre balkanized.

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                Balkanization was a tragedy that resulted in immense suffering and immiseration of working people across the former USSR. It enabled total capitalist hegemony and ushered in our current new guilded age of inequality and imperialist superexploitation.

                If you support making that even worse by destroying Russia and her people you aren’t a fucking socialist. You’re a Western chauvinist, supporting the US/NATO agenda of total domination over everything everywhere forever.

                There can be peace without destroying Russia.

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                  It aint chauvinism if I want to balkanize every country, just happens that Russia is at the top of that list . Also im ideologically descended from my ancestors philosophies, it just happens to align most closely with socialism.

                  Maybe im insane for wanting to devolve the world into a veritable Holy Roman Empire of political and national insanity. I just wish to see a second springtime of nations.

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                    You just so happen to want to start with America’s enemies, which will just so happen to increase America’s geopolitical strength in Europe and Asia.

                    The USSR split up peacefully. Russia will not. Millions will die, and that’s if they don’t fire off all their nukes in their death throes.