Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely

India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.

And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.

It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    That’s what India wants…

    They want to stop the brain drain their country is experiencing. If they outright forbid their citizens from emigrating, then they’re obviously the bad guys.

    If they can make other countries stop Indians from immigrating, the. It Stokes the “us against the world” sentiment that far authoritarian goverments need to stay in power.

    The absolute worst thing any country can do to India, is open up for refugees from there. People would be throwing out their Indian citizenship left and right

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      Canada is hurting right now by taking in so many immigrants, primarily from India. Many companies are using it to suppress wages. Its causing huge strain on housing were kids today will not own a home without assistance from a family member. Its baffling the amount of immigrants Canada is bringing in.

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        You need those immigrants to work the low wages you won’t. The problem is all the frderal governments that have stopped building social housing twenty years ago. A deficit of millions of low cost units is there problem, not new people in the country.

        Blame your concerned conservative and liberal leaders for the last twenty years, not the brown skinned guy trying to feed his kids.

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          You need those immigrants to work the low wages you won’t

          Or, to put it another way: shitty corps and their govt lackeys need those pliable immigrants to work for the underpaid and abusive jobs that Canadians won’t, rather than fixing the pay and working conditions

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          Blame your concerned conservative and liberal leaders for the last twenty years, not the brown skinned guy trying to feed his kids.

          Am I crazy or is that not exactly what the comment you replied to did? I didn’t see any racism or blame against Indians, it was entirely blaming the Canadian government for their immigration policies. I don’t know that I agree with the OP you replied to, but we should be able to have this conversation without devolving into “well you’re racist”

          You need those immigrants to work the low wages you won’t.

          I’d be interested to see some stats on average wages of Indian immigrants if you have any. There are a ton of Indians in my industry (tech) and they are very skilled and make very good wages. Imo they’re a valuable asset to my industry and I don’t believe they bring the average salaries down, but I don’t agree with the mindset that every immigrant is working at Tim Hortons or something.

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            While this thread is about India, immigrants come from all over the world. Some work IT, some work health care, many work the service industry, many drive trucks, many clean buildings, many work on farms, and so on.

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              Yes, this thread is about India, hence why I said:

              I’d be interested to see some stats on average wages of Indian immigrants if you have any

              Your response is goalpost moving and hand wavy.

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          The problem is that bringing in TFW’s to work at Tim Hortons allows the shitty food chain to keep their wages artificially low.

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            So stop shopping there, don’t support the bullshit. Start talking to the workers about unionizing.

            Rich people are fucking you over. They’ll do whatever they can get away with. And they’re successfully convincing people that people that don’t look like you are the problem.

            Don’t kid yourself, they can raise wages plety without affecting the price of your coffee, but they won’t touch their profit margin so the extra cost gets passed to the consumer.

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              Agreed.

              And I don’t. Haven’t been to Tim Hortons more than twice in the last 6 years.

              I’m with you.

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              Totally agree with the sentiment, but if I were to boycott everything I disagree with I’d be a hermit living in the woods… actually that doesn’t sound terrible

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          Gee if no one is working for those low wages, the solution is for wages to rise not to bring in more workers to sustain poverty wages.

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            You’d think so, but the people that own the land and equipment also spend money on politicians that keep that kind of policy from passing into law.

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          They’re not working low wage jobs. These are decent paying middle income jobs that’s driving many 3rd and greater generation Canadians to lose any socioeconomic status within their own country. The Canadian government is hollowing out the middle class in favor of immigration who are taking these well paying jobs to suppress wages so its cheaper to produce the goods and services. Offshoring didn’t work out well so they brought the offshore to Canada and its a pretty serious issue that has caused a generation of Canadians to experience very hard times

          Its driving more Canadians into low wage jobs though and increasing pressure there.

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            We’ll fix our problems when we realize it’s supposed to be class warfare, not racism.

            The people trying to feed the kids are not the source of our problems, it’s the white people who made government policies that are fucking everyone who isn’t rich.

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              That’s a rich comment coming from someone who immediately assumed that brown foreign people must be low wage workers.

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                Please provide a link of me making a claim like you suggest. If someone here is making immediate assumptions, it’s not me. I suggest that you have misinterpreted my words.

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        I’ll bet you’re baffled as to why people call you racist too.

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        We need immigrants because there is not enough people to fill jobs.

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          It’s not just jobs, Canada is extremely underpopulated for its size. There’s literally more people in the state of California than all of Canada.

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            Unemployment is at all time lows across Canada. Fuck off.

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              I’m not saying you’re wrong but I’d love to know why there are so many more homeless people and intersection beggars in my city than I’ve seen in almost 40 years, if that’s true.

              This wasn’t meant to be related to the post we are commenting on, just a casual observation/question.

              Edit: I ask a question and get downvotes. You people are fucking hopeless.

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                Unemployment and homelessness are not related.

                The majority of Canada’s homeless population also work. The majority of Canada’s homeless population only spends a few months homeless.

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                The last 40 years you say?

                (this is the US but we’re heavily influenced by them. I doubt ours is any different)

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        Canada is hurting right now by taking in so many immigrants, primarily from India.

        Canada, without immigration, has a replacement of 1.4. This means that for every 2 Canadian adults only 1.4 are produced. This is a NEGATIVE replacement rate. A rate of 2.1 is consider minimum viable.

        Its baffling the amount of immigrants Canada is bringing in.

        It really isn’t.

        Without immigrants Canada would eventually cease to have a population and disappear as a nation.