Republican voters (74%) and independents (61%) believe speech should be legal “under any circumstances, while Democrats are almost evenly divided. A bare majority of Democrats (53%) say speech should be legal under any circumstances, while 47% say it should be legal “only under certain circumstances.”

  • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com
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    This is me:

    1. Liberals are convinced of the presence of a “fact gap” in the current political environment, which is to say that liberals’ desire to clamp down on misinformation stems from a certainty that conservative content is, objectively speaking, less factual than liberal media content.

    Network Propaganda demonstrated this quite convincingly. Unlike other media ecosystems, the right-wing media ecosystem sources their content from the fringes and brings it to the mainstream. Like, nothing from Dissent Magazine isn’t going to show up in the New York Times. But stuff from Breitbart and…wtfever counts as fringe on the right, showed up on Fox News, often disseminated via Tucker Carlson.

    That whole process demonstrates a lack of journalistic integrity on the right to me (or, to be fair to Tucker Carlson as a former Fox News host, a completely different idea of journalistic integrity than is conventional). The entire right-wing media ecosystem seems to not care for facts or anything that is real from what I’ve seen. Everything is used to frame events for some political purpose, and it’s not beyond them to manufacturer fake crises.

    So, the solution seems like not allowing that disinformation. My real preferred solution is creating a whole society that cares about intellectual integrity. But we have people that say and believe CRT is taught to children, which is 100% false. So…ya know…something needs to be done.

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      Network Propaganda demonstrated this quite convincingly

      Yeah, to be honest, I’m not spending $15 and reading that book to make any definitive statements about the claims they make. Just to preface in case your response is going to be “the book covered that criticism already”.

      Unlike other media ecosystems, the right-wing media ecosystem sources their content from the fringes and brings it to the mainstream. Like, nothing from Dissent Magazine isn’t going to show up in the New York Times. But stuff from Breitbart and…wtfever counts as fringe on the right, showed up on Fox News, often disseminated via Tucker Carlson.

      What’s wrong with ideas being “sourced from the fringe”? Something isn’t automatically wrong because it’s “more extreme” or whatever, especially when it comes to subjective views. And while I’m not particularly a major consumer of mainstream garbage, I find that it’s all just about the same, regardless of left or right, with the primary bias being in the ideological spin put on things, with a secondary focus on what does and doesn’t get coverage. Fox is going to praise an anti-abortion bill, and the NYT will condemn it, for instance, where neither is right or wrong, they just have different points of view. Or fox is going to report Biden saying some mumbled garbage and tripping while CNN reports trump standing in the vacinity of a gun. Same shit. Both are biased, neither is right or wrong about it. Just different perspectives.

      As a side note, I clicked on the “dissent magazine” link since I hadn’t heard of it, and oh boy that’s a weird site. Like, Wtf is this article “Know Your Enemy: Elon Musk, the Jews, and the ADL, with Mari Cohen, Alex Kane, and Peter Beinart”. Some real “I’m playing both sides so I always come out on top” shit right there.

      The entire right-wing media ecosystem seems to not care for facts or anything that is real from what I’ve seen. Everything is used to frame events for some political purpose, and it’s not beyond them to manufacturer fake crises.

      Buddy all the media does that. It’s hardly a right-wing exclusive. If you have any specific examples of relevant right wing media being un-factual to a level above and beyond the general standard of mainstream media, feel free to provide them.