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    You might also want to support the devs that bring you those games? But from what you’re saying I guess you pay for games just to make sure Valve gets money and you don’t care about the people actually making the games 👍

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      So let me pirate it and then donate to the devs or something. Or let me purchase it directly from them. Why should Epic get 10% for doing literally nothing? People like to focus on Epic vs Valve, but Steam could literally not exist at all and Epic would fail. They don’t offer a product that is better than piracy. That’s the bare minimum standard they need to achieve and they can’t even do that. A pirated .exe + Playnite is an objectively better product than a $60 purchase on Epic, it’s just the facts. Anyone that spends money on that store is a fool.

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        Didn’t know pirated games come with auto updates, cloud saving, achievements, working multiplayer (when applicable) 🤔

        If the only way your argument makes sense is by being disingenuous maybe you should keep it to yourself…

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          lmao so features in a store are all of a sudden important now? That’s not what you said before, you said all EGS needed to do is launch the game. It’s almost like… features in a gaming platform are important. Like I said. Now if only you could take this newfound realization and apply it to Steam vs EGS…

          You can set up auto-updates and cloud saves pretty easily, hell there’s even some crazy stuff like this for achievements (EGS social features are so barebones, who cares about achievements on there anyway?).

          Multiplayer is a given, everyone knows you can’t pirate multiplayer games with official servers. But if you were to play a multiplayer game, it sure as fuck wouldn’t be on EGS unless there was forced cross platform because you know it will be dead. I notice when I play Risk of Rain 2 that there will be hundred of Steam lobbies while the cross-play Epic lobbies are completely empty. Epic players literally cannot play that game online. Money well spent for the three people that actually bought that game on EGS, I’m sure they are really thankful they could give Epic their 10% cut for doing nothing when they could have just gotten the game for free or on Steam and had a better experience.

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            Well, it seems they’re important to you so I’m pointing out the hypocrisy that’s all 🤷 You buy from Steam because of the features, say pirating is better than buying from Epic because of the lack of features, I point out the features they have that you don’t get from pirating and now you’re still being disingenuous, so that conversation can end.

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              lol you mean your hypocrisy? You said features don’t matter. “All Epic needs to do is launch the game, that’s good enough!” But now you are saying features do matter. Which is it? Taking this new stance to it’s logical conclusion, Steam would obviously be the superior choice, would it not? Steam has more features than Epic, right?

              Pirated games have features that Epic games don’t by the way, namely the fact that you own the game and you are not limited by DRM. In my personal opinion that is worth way more than EGS achievements which are completely useless on a store with no social features anyway.

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                Me: All I care about is that it launches games

                You: If that’s all I wanted (implying that you want more) I would just pirate the games because Epic doesn’t offer a product that’s better than pirating

                Me: Well, Epic actually offers more than pirating games does if your care about that

                You: Oh now you care about the extra features!

                No, I’m trying to show you that their product meets your demands, that’s how arguments work.

                https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

                They proportionally have more DRM free games than Steam too…

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                  Me: All I care about is that it launches games

                  Then there is zero reason for you to buy games from Epic. That is a function that can be performed for free. It’s like paying for air or sunshine. What kind of idiot pays money for something they can get for free?

                  You just seem to be completely ignoring the fact that I’ve already addressed all the features you brought up and most of them are pretty useless or are available to pirated games anyway. Certainly they are not worth actually spending money on when GoG and Steam do all those things and much more. Even if you had cash to spare and you just wanted those features with minimal hassle, there is still zero reason to buy from Epic.

                  jfc I’ve never seen someone defend so vehemently a product not having features. Epic is a multibillion dollar corporation with apparently thousands of employees, they don’t need you to bootlick for them.

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                    I buy my games where they’re the cheapest and I buy them so the devs can continue making games, you’re pretty fucking dumb to waste money to have access to useless features!

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                And by the way, no one believes for a sec that you send a single cent to devs whose games you pirate and no, pirating a game doesn’t legally make you an owner of said game.

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                  I don’t pirate games, I buy them from Steam or GoG like everyone else because I’m not an idiot. I have absolutely zero incentive to buy from a platform with no useful features.