The issue for the christofascists isn’t that children are being indoctrinated in school. The issue is the deprogramming of the indoctrination to fear, hate, intolerance, and self-loathing that they get at home from their parents and at church from christofascist leaders.

Schools don’t make people more liberal, exposure to reality makes people more liberal.

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    I dropped Christianity as soon as I got old enough to read other books that weren’t the Bible, and I realized that most of what was fed to me was easily proven to be false. In a sense, educating myself did indeed cause me to lose my faith, and I’m grateful for it everyday.

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      That’s why they hate public education and why they have been trying to destroy the education system for years. As long as there is public education there are people who will see through their christofascist nonsense and fight them.

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    How are those developer greenbelt scandals going for you guys?

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      Whataboutism for the win!

      Last I heard Ford had lost three ministers, one of whom resigned as an MP, he has reversed the land swap, and the investigating is ongoing and this will likely get worse for him. There is no way he will win the next election.

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        There is no way he will win the next election.

        Ontario: Hold my buck-a-beer.

        He’s still winning if an election was held today. I sincerely hope this changes over the next … gulp … 3 years, but today we’re not even close.

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          That’s a quirk of our electoral system given that the left leaning parties currently hold 56% of the popular vote. If the left could get its shit together the right wouldn’t win another election.

          EDIT: Downvotes this all you want. The only reason that Ontario has a Conservative government is FPTP. Without that and lying and cheating the Conservatives would never win.

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            I think the downvotes come from ignoring the fact that some of the OLP’s members are really red Tories, and some of its policies have been decidedly not left. For example the years of wage growth freezes in the public sector, the privatization of various public assets to balance budgets. In other words the OLP can’t be chucked to the left wholesale. It’s probably lefty overall today but the right elements within it have done a lot of damage to a lot of Ontarians’ lives. I am by no means saying that the OLP is the same as the OPC. But the OLP is not the same as the NDP. I’m saying this as a strategic voter who would vote either depending on who ABC is electable in my riding. I’m also not saying that the OLP and NDP banding together won’t be amazing for us. What I’m saying is that there are non-insignificant differences that have prevented this from happening. It would take a lot for a democratic socialist to get in bed with someone who’s fought unions tooth and nail to balance a budget, a neoliberal economic move.

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              I’d rather see two center-right and left groups debating policy rather than needing to entertain the far right policies that many conservatives are fine to be in bed with.

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        Not at all whataboutism. Poking the christofascists is a pretty transparent political ploy to move the coverage to this “debate” and away from the greenbelt scandal. They don’t need to do this now, they do it because it gets headlines.

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    These groups lately that have been arguing to “protect their kids from indoctrination” are literally just after one thing. They want SOGI (sexual orientation and gender identity) teaching removed from schools. SOGI just teaches kids that gay people and transgender people exist. That’s it.

    SOGI education makes gay and trans kids feel less alone and it makes them feel seen and heard. And it helps to open the eyes of cisgender and/or straight students to the plight of their gay and/or transgender peers. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that and anyone who thinks that’s indoctrination just wants their personal version of religious indoctrination in schools instead.

    Don’t believe their lies about “protecting the children”. This is about controlling the children and it’s about gay and trans erasure.

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      If they were actually interested in protecting children from grooming and abuse they would be protesting churches. This is about the fact that their obsession with LGBTQ makes them feel icky. I mean, how much time do they spend imagining scenarios involving drag queens and children? That’s not normal.

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      If they actually cared about child indoctrination, they’d be fighting to make churches 18+.