The chief justice doesn’t like his conservative Supreme Court colleagues getting called out for judicial overreach.

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    To the three of you who downvoted me without a word of explanation: we can see who downvotes who on kbin.

    So I ask you, why did you downvote me and why do you think that this guy talking to his fellow politicians is news worthy? We are not on an american website anymore, the rest of the world doesn’t care about the american constant struggle and crying about politicians saying stuff.

    @WhiskeyZac

    @nameless_prole

    @RoughBeastSlouching

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      Woooo internet tough guy here. Be careful everyone – hes gonna call you out! o7 keyboard warrior, o7.

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          You asked why you were downvoted. It’s because of your arrogant attitude and trolling. But, I’ll sometimes have some pity and feed the troll.

          You asked why anyone outside the US should care what happens in the US. The answer is very simple. If the US experiences a collapse of some kind (which it might), it will have a profoundly negative effect on the value of currencies worldwide, including the EUR and GBP. So, no matter how much you hate it, the value of your currency is affected by the value of ours.

          That’s just one reason why you should care about the rise of conservatism and how it harms the U.S.

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            You asked why you were downvoted. It’s because of your arrogant attitude and trolling.

            You are the troll here, so change your tone: “Don’t forget me too! 🤣”

            You asked why anyone outside the US should care what happens in the US.

            No, you read it wrong. I specifically talked about the nature of the post which was political. We already have magazines for politics, specially the US one, but the nature of the problem is politics seen as news. The US politics is and endless shitshow which doesn’t qualify as news anymore. Breaking news! Trump called AOC FAT!

            The answer is very simple. If the US experiences a collapse of some kind (which it might), it will have a profoundly negative effect on the value of currencies worldwide, including the EUR and GBP. So, no matter how much you hate it, the value of your currency is affected by the value of ours.

            That must be the most ridiculous argument I’ve read so far. Look at this news that I just picked from the news magazine:

            The Supreme Court will decide if abusive spouses have a right to own guns (vox.com)
            Girlparts

            The world is shaking! Suspense! Good thing that I’ve been informed about this one.

            That’s just one reason why you should care about the rise of conservatism and how it harms the U.S.

            Keep it for @USpolitics

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      The destruction of queer rights in the US will harm me regardless of me ever setting foot in the country.

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          I don’t think they’re being ridiculous to say that US politics has an impact outside of the US. To quote a former Canadian Prime Minister:

          “Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”

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      I’m downvoting you because you’re being incredibly immature right now. People can disagree with you
      Saying “how dare you downvote me, I can SEE IT!” and calling them out makes you look like a giant child. You need to take some time to consider your own response and whether or not that’s something WE want on the fediverse. You can just as easily be blocked too, you know.

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        Downvoting and running away was a reddit thing, now you are accountable for your downvotes.

        I have the maturity to ask for answer when people react to what I say. My question about sorting posts out of @news and moving them to @USpolitics is perfectly legitimate. I’m glad that some people took the time to answer so we can have a discussion, but so far among the handful of people who had the courage to put up a written argument I’ve read nothing convincing me that this post has its place in @news rather than in politics.

        If all you want is a copy of reddit then please go back to reddit.You will have a barrage of US political news all day long.

        You need to take some time to consider your own response and whether or not that’s something WE want on the fediverse. You can just as easily be blocked too, you know.

        Block me, be my guest, at least you won’t be able to downvote me on sight anymore.

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          Doing things like calling out someone’s post history or making a whiney edit about the people downvoting you are also reddit things. And that’s the kind of behaviour you’re exhibiting right here. You’re being close minded and demanding that other people cater to your needs. Just like Americans shouldn’t only concern themselves with their news, you too shouldn’t only close yourself off and only care about your news. And if you don’t like it, unsubscribe yourself.

          Go touch some grass dude.

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            Doing things like calling out someone’s post history or making a whiney edit about the people downvoting you are also reddit things. And that’s the kind of behaviour you’re exhibiting right here. You’re being close minded and demanding that other people cater to your needs.

            I’m not whining, I’m calling people out on their bullshit votes. @news is turning into political trash and you don’t seem to care.

            Just like Americans shouldn’t only concern themselves with their news, you too shouldn’t only close yourself off and only care about your news. And if you don’t like it, unsubscribe yourself.

            I’m not closed, I already posted about foreign countries. And if you are not happy with people calling you out on your bullshit then go back to reddit where you can downvote incognito.

            You can turn this place to shit if you want to but I won’t remain quiet about it, dude…

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              I’m calling people out on their bullshit votes.

              Okay, I’ve been staying out of this but now I just have to: what kind of extraordinary qualifications do you have to unilaterally decide which votes are valid and which are not? Is it as simple as any vote that disagrees with you is automatically “bullshit”?

              Have you considered that people are just downvoting you and moving on because they feel that the flaws in your arguments are apparent enough that they can just click the down arrow without having to type a whole essay about it?

              And really, why should anyone have to type out a whole response to justify clicking downvote? What makes your opinions so astronomically important that they deserve everyone’s full intellectual energy or none at all?

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                Okay, I’ve been staying out of this but now I just have to:

                What an entry!

                what kind of extraordinary qualifications do you have to unilaterally decide which votes are valid and which are not? Is it as simple as any vote that disagrees with you is automatically “bullshit”?

                I’m talking about very factual points: the usage of the tool that we are building now. Many of us have migrated because of the flaws of other media platforms.

                Your position about “downvote” is like expression a feeling. For other people like me it’s very factual. That’s part of what I wanted to establish. It emotions vs facts all over again. The reaction I had were mostly based on feeling. Just like the content I’m seeing spammed here. Ragebait.

                Have you considered that people are just downvoting you and moving on because they feel that the flaws in your arguments are apparent enough that they can just click the down arrow without having to type a whole essay about it?

                And I gave them an opportunity to answer with arguments. That was the point. If they have such a big reason to downvote then let’s go and say why. And the result is poof… there was not much except feelings. This magazine is turning into a collection of ragebait. And now one of the default magazine of the alternative to reddit has fallen into the same trap that reddit laid to us: ragebait content. I wouldn’t care if is was posted into USPolitics or politicus, but news, what, the whole planet???

                I expected much better from the first wave of people who left reddit. In the end they just want more of the same ragebait.

                And I know exactly what you are all going to say. “then go away if you don’t like it”. Yes, I don’t like it, that’s why I left reddit. I couldn’t care less about your political shitshow non-stop circus which leaked thorough all the subs. You think people care about your senators killing a dog with their car? The people posting other news are now thrown down the frontpage so we can make more space for the latest Trumpstunt. And now you are getting out of the wood because you had too much! What a superhero you are.

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          Reddit has a solution to this. In addition to r/news there is r/worldnews, which prohibits US internal news/US politics. Something similar would be a good solution here too. Also, frankly, you have failed to explain how the article you’re complaining about is politics rather than news. In the U.S. justices and judges are not politicians. Maybe they are where you live?

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      why do you think that this guy talking to his fellow politicians is news worthy?

      I’m one one of the downvoters, so I’ll try giving you an answer. As an American, it’s newsworthy to me when the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is publicly calling out the other justices for behavior he deems unbecoming a justice. I had not realized that @news was specifically for European news? And I think perhaps YOU had not realized that in America, the supreme court is theoretically above politics. A justice is not a politician. Again, in theory. Lately our supreme court has been behaving very much like bought-and-paid-for politicians, and that should be concerning to all Americans.

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        I had not realized that @news was specifically for European news?

        There is a whole world out there. Right now @new is around 50% US. How is it a good thing? Look at this from a non US perspective. You open your news feed and nearly half of it is about US politicians doing the political dance.

        If you have political news to post, please post them at least in a political magazine, not in news.

        Lately our supreme court has been behaving very much like bought-and-paid-for politicians, and that should be concerning to all Americans.

        This is not news, everyone around the planet know that your politicians are sold to the richest people. Again, keep it into political magazines, or we will be flooded.

        Do you really want US politics to flood each sub like what happened on reddit?