I’m currently still using gmail unfortunately

Cock.li (airmail.cc)looks very nice but it is invite only

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    I use Protonmail as they offer quite a bit of privacy, offer lots of features, and are free. I particularly like that they protect from tracking pixels notifying the sender you read their email.

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      Same. Proton gang.

      I have plenty to criticize about their lack of creature comforts, but alas.

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          Yeah, the Android app is total garbage.

          I don’t know if it’ll ever “get there” because they’ve not demonstrated that they’re putting in any effort at all. It’s currently on version 3.0.16. According to ApkMirror, they released 3.0.1 in June of 2022. So that’s over a year of “stability improvements and bug fixes”. Meanwhile they launched Proton Pass, Proton captcha, desktop clients for Drive, introducing new plans, etc.

          Honestly, I just want threaded conversations on mobile.

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      Indeed, same here but while using my own domain name, this way if some day, for whatever reason, either they go “bad” or I find “better” I can switch without much worry.

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          I meant that with the free tier lacking such a basic and necessary feature, you cannot really say the service is “free”.

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    Posteo.de - 100% renewable energy. Full industry standard encryption. No tracking, no adds. Annual transparency report. Supporting social and environmental efforts. Great treatment of their employees.

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      Also comes with an XMPP account built in, although they should probably update their Ejabberd sometimes 😅

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      Opinion on the price changes? 1 eur plan doesn’t work with custom domains anymore so I’m looking for alternatives.

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          Strictly speaking it’s not a price increase, the 1 EUR plan is still there. However, support for custom domains has been removed and is only available from 3 EUR plan and upwards under the new pricing scheme.

          I’m kind of grandfathered into the old 1 EUR plan that still supports custom domains, but I can’t extend it any further. This means when my account credit dries up I need to choose one of the new pricing schemes ( 1 eur w/o custom domain vs 3 eur … etc.)

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            Did not know this… Also currently on the 1 EUR plan since it was the best bang for buck that included custom domains. Might start looking into other options when my plan runs out

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                migadu does seem like a good option. Curious what you have chosen? I am also looking at fastmail standard to replace simplelogin email aliasing since it would be the same price as simplelogin + migadu/runbox.

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                  Sorry for the late answer. I ended up choosing Midagu for the time being. Unlimited inbox sounded attractive enough as using alias in my use case wasn’t cutting it.

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      Where do you host that’s reasonably priced and still has an IP pool that isn’t immediately blacklisted by Google, Yahoo and Microsoft?

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        I self host an email server at home with a 1€/month domain from strato.de, and I just use their SMTP server as relay. No issues so far, and they also include a backup mx for when my home server goes offline.

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          That’s a pretty good setup. I used to use Amazon SES same way, but they dropped free SES tier. Still reasonably cheap, but more than 1€/mo.

          I have to say though, having someone else take care of all updates, backups, etc is worth it for $10/year. You can also bring your own domain. Their servers are not the fastest, but that’s my only real complaint with purelymail.com.

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        ICD Soft

        I’ve used them for 20 years. I’ve never had an email problem. Their spam detection and mitigation is pretty good too.

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        Well I have some hardware colocated at a DC so I can’t speaktoo much about cost plus IP reputation. I can also only rely on individual IP blacklist checking. If MS has decided on their own to blacklist an entire subnet there isn’t much to be done about that.

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          That’s what I mean. You cannot host in Hetzner, for example, unless you use an outside service like SES for outgoing mail. Their IPs are globally shit listed.

          I can’t think of another provider that even comes close in pricing for colo services.

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            My main point is that it is seemingly impossible to tell what Microsoft has and has not shit listed because may operate their own internal list which isn’t published.

            I’m somewhat of the opinion though that more people should self host email and try to be a thorn in the side of these corps implementing arbitrary rules. If more people aren’t receiving email more reports about I will be generated and that will hopefully result in more people like us getting our email successfully delivered.

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              Couldn’t agree more, but these policies exist because spammers host their own servers. Without a network of trust, you’d have to dig through a thousand of emails every day to find the one from your friend.

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      On the one hand I hear self hosting email is great, on the other hand I hear it’s a pain in the ass to get whitelisted

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        Well my IP isn’t on any blacklists but I can’t speak on getting whitelistred" by providers. I can send to gmail without going to spam. Idon’t generally send much email though.

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    I’m oldschool.

    I’ve had my own domains and mail servers for the past 3 decades and will maintain them for as long as I live.

    And these days, all but the storage runs of Pi3, so it’s barely using any power either.

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    I use Fastmail - not too expensive, really good webmail client, has working shared calendar that isn’t OWA, and isn’t advertising scraping my e-mail. I would have liked a more private service, but back when I moved from self hosted to a service, that was about the best I could get that also had calendaring.

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      I also switched to Fastmail. iirc they are not the best privacy wise as they are based in Australia. They do however have a no-nonsense IMAP connection (unlike Protonmail) and they allow multiple custom domains without extra pay. The IMAP connection however is not available on the lowest tier.

      So far I’ve not regretted the switch, and it also integrates nicely with 1Password masked mails.

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    Any email with cock in the name will trigger filtering. It also has the side effect of making me unemployable

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    Proton (free - 1GB storage, 500MB before doing 4 “tasks”) for family, friends, and business types uses, although I’d rather have an integrated calendar (instead of it being a separate app).

    Tutanota (free - 1GB storage) for bills, purchases, etc., basically everything else, because I’m never going to say “my email is [email protected]” to anyone I know, especially business acquaintances. So far, I like Tutanota more than Proton, especially the integrated calendar, but that name… sounds like something my mother or grandparents were scammed into using.

    On desktop, I’m currently using Thunderbird (TB) for a couple of older gmail accounts (in the process of transitioning away from), although I hate the recent update to TB. Haven’t tried the Tutanota desktop app yet, but web version of email & calendar work adequately. Maybe I’ll transition from TB now, after their recent changes.

    Considered mailbox.org, but I’m not going to pay for it (no free version), especially when they don’t at least have a cell app. Skiff may be worth looking at. Can’t recall why I didn’t try them.

    EDIT: I’ve now installed Skiff (free - 10GB) as well and liking it so far. Using webmail seems easy and straight forward, cell app looks about the same (but haven’t spent too much time on it yet). REALLY like that you basically get 4 email accounts (1 main and 3 alias account names), which is different than Tutanota and Proton. With the different aliases, this gives me an option to use Skiff for everything (if I choose to “put everything in one basket” at some point). Skiff sounds a little better than “Tuta” for business acquaintances as well, but not by much. No integrated calendar, but significantly larger storage is a plus.

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    I tried Proton, even paid for a year. But hot damn the Android app is garbage. So I’ve moved to Fastmail and I like it a lot. The app is snappy and I love that it has calendar, contacts, mail, notes, and files storage all in the same app. I used a custom domain with Proton so wasn’t hard to switch to a different provider. Just wish I would’ve known how bad the mobile app was before I plunked down the money.

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        I’ve heard that. Boy does it need it. But I’ll admit I don’t like that their focus seems to be on introducing new products instead of making their existing lineup more reliable/performant. And not making many strides in the Linux world.

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      Fastmail here as well. I don’t need super privacy. The phone app is great. Was easy to setup my personal domain.

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    This one isn’t for daily private use, more like a throwaway email service for when sites and services have no earthly business asking your email other than to track you and send junk mail…

    dispostable.com

    Edit: You don’t even have to register an account with them, just make up an email with them and it should just work for most sites.

    I use irrelevant at dispostable dot com to use Walmart’s free WiFi, the password on Walmart’s side is Walmart1 hahahaha!

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    Protonmail, but not really because of encryption. I just liked their Android client and webmail the most. I’ve had sensitive backups on Proton Drive for a long time, so that also played a role in the choice.

    I hosted my own server for quite a few years, but the SMTP clients (Thunderbird, Evolution, K9 mail) all doing things slightly differently made me give up. Biggest push was that K9 mail didn’t really move deleted mail to trash. These were probably dovecot configuration issues, but I got tired of searching for solutions. Never had any deliverability issues.

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    Purely mail.

    $10/year.

    Every provider out there encrypts mail at rest. You’re exchanging emails with Gmail, Yahoo or Hotmail anyway. Pretending like your email is any safer with Proton or clones is a waste of money imho.

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        That’s actually really expensive. 2GB is not a lot unless you’re starting from scratch. My 50gb account would cost me ~15€/mo with aliases and extra storage fees.

        But most importantly they don’t support bringing your own domains which makes it a non-starter for most people looking for custom email solution.