The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

  • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    I like how this comment section highlights why a job fair specifically not for cis men is needed lol

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      It’s so fucking cringe. I work in tech, I see how weirdly women get treated and I see their unusually high turnover rate. Early on I was told “women don’t last long here” and it was very true, that woman in particular quit to do freelance work (good for her). Why can’t women have a job fair? Men don’t fucking need one, NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.

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        1 year ago

        I’m really being sincere, but why would men magically not need a job fair? They can also be unemployed and struggle to get a job. That’s not a 2x specific issue.

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          I guess I’ll just copy and paste from my previous comment:

          NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.

        • CaptFeather@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Because men dominate the tech industry. It just doesn’t make sense to hold one for men.

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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            Eh… I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

            I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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            Eh… I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

            I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

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        1 year ago

        What’s worse is when you see workplaces that want more women for only the idea it will ‘bring up the standard’ like….I think there’s something telling about the culture alone if they need a specific gender to help understand better standards of working. I would hope they are hiring inclusively for more reasons than just ‘our standards are low cuz men are poo and we won’t confront them on it. We will leave it to women to mommy manage it for us. Know any women looking for a job?’

      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Why can’t women have a job fair?

        Laws.

        I agree with you, it’s just not the way the laws were written.

        • rambaroo@lemmy.world
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          Yeah but been could be mature enough to stay away from it. Instead they act like they’re being oppressed. All the other job fairs are already dominated by men.

      • cricket97@lemmy.world
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        If woman want a job fair they should create one that actually only allows women, but given no one seems to have a definition for women, it might be hard to do.

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            1 year ago

            which law prevents a private female only conference from happening? As far as I know, there are no such laws.

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              Read The Fucking Article, that’s the exact reason they allowed men at the conference in question: federal nondiscrimination laws

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                I’m saying I don’t buy that reason. There are no laws (afaik) that prevent exactly what I described. Federal discrimination laws typically refer to employment or public places, not private events.

                • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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                  1 year ago

                  This is an employment related event. Anti discrimination laws apply to applicants.

                  If it was just a networking event, no problem, ban men

                  • cricket97@lemmy.world
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                    I don’t believe there are any laws that make that illegal. There are plenty of black only recruiting events, there was one at my college. If you can find me a law that says this is illegal I will bite my tongue, but from what I can tell it applies to employers, not anything close to recruiting events.

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      1 year ago

      some of the comments here are downright scary. women can’t have a single thing, it seems.

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        And article makes it clear what is to blame

        The nonprofit says it believes allyship from men is important and noted it cannot ban men from attending due to federal nondiscrimination protections in the US.

        lol

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        Yeah, this sucks. It doesn’t surprise me, but it sucks. So many manchildren out there who only think about themselves.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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      Yeah if there’s ever a sign that a group doesn’t need representation is when they brigade someone who does.

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        No it does not. The problem was with men that lied about their gender.

        Cullen White, AnitaB.org’s chief impact officer, said in a video posted to X, formerly Twitter, that some registrants had lied about their gender identity when signing up, and men were now taking up space and time with recruiters that should go to women.

        edit: the deleted comment stated that the article claimed they had problems with amab enbies