• GladiusB@lemmy.world
    9·
    1 year ago

    Depends on the union. Sometimes they are just there as a mouthpiece for management. Sometimes they fight for worker’s rights.

    • MandyEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      but like, in a country that isnt run by companys as hard as usa, the latter is the default. nothing more nothing less. Are unions so busted in america even they cant help but filled with corruption?

      • jscummy
        22·
        1 year ago

        It depends on the industry and honestly I’d be surprised if some unions in your country are not similar or worse. I’m in Chicago, which is one of the country’s biggest union strongholds, and construction unions here are often shitty and corrupt. Unions will bully and fight dirty against competing companies, sometimes even getting in spats between local chapters

        • MandyEnglish
          31·
          1 year ago

          if such a thing is present in my countries unions is so minuscule that its inconsequential, but if fairly confident (no country is perfect but you get my point) my countries isnt even close to whatever hellhole usa unions are

          • jscummy
            2·
            1 year ago

            Might be a difference in the role the union has fallen into. The unions I’m talking about have been given way too much power through cronyism over the years, and at this point act more like a trade association/cartel acting for the businesses against other businesses, not for the workers against management

            • Mandy
              2·
              1 year ago

              See cronyism isjt even possible and very much not allowed in mine and some other countries (can’t speak for everyone of course) And unions as again, other countries as well only have as much power as workers choosing then, no workers? No power Majority of workers use them? Now they finally have the weight they need

              That’s what I imagine and hope is the default outside america, or at least it should be

              • jscummy
                1·
                1 year ago

                Yeah my American brain has trouble comprehending a system where cronyism isn’t possible. Here most unions have an associated PAC and are very active with political donations and lobbying

      • CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world
        31·
        1 year ago

        Well some stewards are prone to bribing, special treatment by MGMT to turn a blind eye to certain things or back off. Others are competent, but maybe too busy for you. Others are elected because they’re popular or whatever, but as a steward they’re not knowledgeable or brave or effective. There’s lots of ways a union steward can go awry.