Why YSK: Getting along in a new social environment is easier if you understand the role you’ve been invited into.


It has been said that “if you’re not paying for the service, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.”

It has also been said that “the customer is always right”.

Right here and now, you’re neither the customer nor the product.

You’re a person interacting with a website, alongside a lot of other people.

You’re using a service that you aren’t being charged for; but that service isn’t part of a scheme to profit off of your creativity or interests, either. Rather, you’re participating in a social activity, hosted by a group of awesome people.

You’ve probably interacted with other nonprofit Internet services in the past. Wikipedia is a standard example: it’s one of the most popular websites in the world, but it’s not operated for profit: the servers are paid-for by a US nonprofit corporation that takes donations, and almost all of the actual work is volunteer. You might have noticed that Wikipedia consistently puts out high-quality information about all sorts of things. It has community drama and disputes, but those problems don’t imperil the service itself.

The folks who run public Lemmy instances have invited us to use their stuff. They’re not business people trying to make a profit off of your activity, but they’re also not business people trying to sell you a thing. This is, so far, a volunteer effort: lots of people pulling together to make this thing happen.

Treat them well. Treat the service well. Do awesome things.

  • mx3m@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    “If you’re not paying for the service, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.”

    I see this everywhere, it’s the logical fallacy equivalent of “everything that’s rare has value”.

    I’m sure most people, on the top of their head, can think of at least 3 products that are free to use and aren’t engineered to leverage their private information (Wikipedia anyone?)

    What is true though, is that if you’re not paying for the product or service, SOMEBODY ELSE definitely is. So the question is: “who is paying for me? And why are they paying for me? What is at stake for them?”

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      1 year ago

      I’ve donated to wikipedia before because I feel its valuable to me for all the information it gives.

      I might donate to lemmy if i feel its valuable to me for information or discussions

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      1 year ago

      I think the part that’s missing is that this advice is related to companies, not in general. If the company is making a profit, and not asking you to pay, where is the money coming from?

    • merc
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      1 year ago

      Also worth noting that you can be exploited as “the product” even if you are paying for something.

      A big ISP is almost certainly monitoring what its users are doing and either selling the data or trying to use it to make more money. You’re paying, but they’re still going to try to use your data to make more money.

      It’s more about what companies can get away with. If a company has a way to collect your data and monetize it, they’ll do it unless you object. In markets without real competition (cell phones, internet service, etc.) everybody’s doing it, so you have nowhere to go to avoid it.