• gedaliyah@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t fucking get on how Israel has never really tried forming a state in which both palestinians and jews can live in peace together.

    That is literally what Israel is. 20% of citizens are Palestinian. They have the exact same rights as any other citizen, and representation in the Israeli Parliament.

    As far as Gaza is concerned, Israel withdrew all settlers and military almost 20 years ago. Israel doesn’t want any part of Gaza, but the Hamas party who rules Gaza with an iron fist wants to invade and drive out Israel.

      • Final Remix@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Can I just say how nice it is that we can have multiple links in a comment and it doesn’t get automodded and silently hidden like on reddit?

    • BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Let me just take the majority of your house, leaving you with only your bathroom, and then tell me how wanting me out is trying to invade my territory

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      1 year ago

      20% are Arab, not necessarily Palestinians… but ya, saying they’re an apartheid state is kinda scuttled by, well, the facts.

      • gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        There are far more ethnic Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank living in third world conditions, who are denied Israeli citizenship than there are Palestinian Israeli citizens, and even the ones with citizenship are subjected to a level of racism and state violence comparable to Black Americans in the Jim Crow south.

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          There are about 7 million Jews in Israel and about 2 million Arabs. (With like less than a million “others”? Something like that.) Palestine’s population has been declining (for some… mysterious reason…) but there are still about 5 million Palestinians.

          It’s simply a question of the numbers: you can have a theocratic Jewish state of Israel or you can have a representative democracy that gives equal Rights to the Palestinians, but not both. Likud is a party of theocrats and they’ve all decided long ago which is more important to them.