Foreign Minister Penny Wong says Israel has a right to defend itself, and judging its security decisions from a distance is “very difficult”, as Israel’s government vows to cut off food and water to the blockaded Gaza Strip.

  • Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world
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    In practical terms how do you organise aid for a state you’re at war with? How do you ensure the safety of your aid workers in a way that doesn’t involve your military, but also doesn’t just provide new hostages? How do you stop your own aid workers from getting in the way of military operations?

    I guarantee you Israel wouldn’t do this if they had a better option, this will only radicalise the normal people who start to go hungry and thirsty.

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      In practical terms you avoid the situation entirely by not operating an open air prison for decades and indiscriminately bombing civilians, thereby breeding terrorists with nothing to loose, and then cutting off the food, water and electricity to civilians as a collective punishment.

      You guarantee Israel wouldn’t do this if they had a better option? I think it’s far more likely that the far right in Israel have just been waiting for an excuse to do this.

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      Seems like not cutting off food water and electricity would be easier than “organizing aid”

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          You understand food has to come from somewhere and Israel controls the sea, the air and most of the land while bombing the fuck out of the people and infrastructure.

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              Not starving millions of people right on their doorstep is not highest on their list of priorities?

              It’s pretty easy to not cut off their power supply that they control.

              It’s pretty easy to stop carpet bombing civilians (including the banned use of phosphorus weapons near densely populated areas which happened yesterday)

              It’s pretty easy to not stop humanitarian aid.

              It’s pretty easy to stop blockading them.

              It’s pretty easy to stop killing them indiscriminately.

              They just choose not to do the right thing.

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        Why should they provide those things to a group they are at war with? After their government slaughtered a bunch of civilians?

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          The flip side of that coin is it’s pretty bad to make a independent population, who can’t vote in your elections, totally dependent on you. Preventing them from having independent sources of water electricity and food. Preventing them from self-determination and self-governance.

          This all ties back to the core issues here. There’s a population that has no autonomy, no say in its future, no say and it’s foreign policy, de facto non-citizens in the state they can’t participate in. That’s not a stable situation, in any society.

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            Hamas, the elected government of Gaza, have vowed to exterminate Israel. Of course they’re not going to let them self govern.

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              You only need to look at the West Bank for an example of how things would play out with a more cooperative Palestinian government. Same shit, no autonomy, no say in its future, no say in its foreign policy, with the added bonus of a slow ethnic cleansing as Israel slowly annexes it’s land.

              There are no good guys here.

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          It wasn’t their government. It was an organisation started by an Israeli government at the time to combat the PLO