• @[email protected]
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    2211 months ago

    Best of all, the Vancouver study concluded that doing so actually reduces government spending.

    Makes you wonder about the people dead set against this sort of thing

    • @oroboros
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      Unfortunately, quite a lot of people only feel self worth through others misery. You could give them everything, but if others didn’t have less they’d be miserable.

    • @[email protected]
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      711 months ago

      They’ve likely associated homelessness with drug use, and drug use with a moral failing. Or they just don’t have any empathy at all and are ignorant of the benefits we all get from helping those in need.

  • @[email protected]
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    1111 months ago

    Yes, but you see this policy isn’t cruel enough to be implemented by the christian right

  • @[email protected]
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    611 months ago

    Cool, now make it happen for everyone with no questions asked. Then we cut out the overhead of seeing if you qualify and stop people from complaining about how it incentivises you to be lazy.

    No level of effort will make you earn less than you did before, as can happen when you earn enough that you no longer qualify for the programs that let you take the first steps out of poverty. But it will still be cheaper for the government (and therefore the taxpayer) at the end of the day because we won’t be wasting as many resources trying to heal people who are only sick because they were suffering extreme poverty, or are only addicts because it’s the only way to make their practically hopeless living situation slightly more bearable, or are only unemployed because every job makes them earn too much to stay on SNAP benefits or Medicaid (US examples, I know, but I’m willing to bet similar Catch-22s exist near you).

    • Doug HollandOPM
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      411 months ago

      “No questions asked” is brilliant.

      The people who need aid most — any kind of alleged aid program — are not capable of navigating the proof and paperwork maze. That’s not accidental, it’s cost control. All aid programs should be as close to “no questions asked” as feasible.

  • @[email protected]
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    611 months ago

    The only people against UBI are rich assholes and people who wish they were rich assholes.

    • @mindbleach
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      111 months ago

      Or people who think change means swapping around who goes where. As if it is impossible for everyone to be fed, clothed, and housed, because someone’s gotta scrub the toilets. You will see these people out themselves in any discussion of minimum wage. They will proudly declare that not everyone with a full-time job deserves enough money to survive. Mark these people, and remember them, so you do not mistake the words they say for reasoned arguments. They are only performing loyalty. And they think that’s all you’re doing, because they think that’s all there is.

    • Doug HollandOPM
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      011 months ago

      Hey, I wish I was a rich asshole, and I’d love to see UBI.

  • BarterClub
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    511 months ago

    Portland you ready?