Oh no. How did people do it before in the past before SUVs?! Also, public transit.
Yes. A steong public transportation infrastructure. As we are going to experience worst and worst weather that challenges the survival of the human race, we will need to make sacrifices.
The discussion was about EV’s, you missed the point. But ill bite.
1/1a. My relatively short daily commute of 20 minutes turns into 1:10. My time is more valuable than money, so no.
2. “Before the SUV” people didn’t have to commute much further than down the street for work, so no.
3. Cool. You first.
You had answers to your questions? I knew your comment was bait.
Yes, I am first. I am more than happy to have new affordable housing built near me and public transportation expanded! If done well it will always be a benefit. Imagine walkable neighborhoods with buses on time?? Yes please!
If we have an expanded public trans option, there will be less people on the road which means your commute will be shorter. Not longer. People in like Los Angeles, San Francisco, and other congested places would feel it!
So please, less individual vehicles and more public transportation
Not to argue semantics, but moving people from cars to public transit keeps the same people on the roads, but fewer vehicles. While i get your line of reasoning, accuracy counts.
If you’re willing to give up what you own to move to denser populated areas that meet your needs, great! I’m all for it. That’s YOUR choice.
On the flip side, who decides who is allowed to operate a personal vehicle? To me, that seems like the opposite of a choice.
But once again, the conversation was about EVs. You want dense vertical growth urbanism, be my guest, but I’m really not interested.
Gonna further add, if there is 14" of snow on the ground and the roads aren’t clear, then with 99% of the SUVs, Trucks, and cars sold today, you aren’t, and you shouldn’t, be going anywhere.
That’s a design issue of the vehicle anyway, and not inherently related to the ICE vs EV drivetrain.
1/1a. Yep. Public transit.
Oh no. How did people do it before in the past before SUVs?! Also, public transit.
Yes. A steong public transportation infrastructure. As we are going to experience worst and worst weather that challenges the survival of the human race, we will need to make sacrifices.
The discussion was about EV’s, you missed the point. But ill bite.
1/1a. My relatively short daily commute of 20 minutes turns into 1:10. My time is more valuable than money, so no. 2. “Before the SUV” people didn’t have to commute much further than down the street for work, so no. 3. Cool. You first.
You had answers to your questions? I knew your comment was bait.
Yes, I am first. I am more than happy to have new affordable housing built near me and public transportation expanded! If done well it will always be a benefit. Imagine walkable neighborhoods with buses on time?? Yes please!
If we have an expanded public trans option, there will be less people on the road which means your commute will be shorter. Not longer. People in like Los Angeles, San Francisco, and other congested places would feel it!
So please, less individual vehicles and more public transportation
Not to argue semantics, but moving people from cars to public transit keeps the same people on the roads, but fewer vehicles. While i get your line of reasoning, accuracy counts.
If you’re willing to give up what you own to move to denser populated areas that meet your needs, great! I’m all for it. That’s YOUR choice.
On the flip side, who decides who is allowed to operate a personal vehicle? To me, that seems like the opposite of a choice.
But once again, the conversation was about EVs. You want dense vertical growth urbanism, be my guest, but I’m really not interested.
Gonna further add, if there is 14" of snow on the ground and the roads aren’t clear, then with 99% of the SUVs, Trucks, and cars sold today, you aren’t, and you shouldn’t, be going anywhere.
That’s a design issue of the vehicle anyway, and not inherently related to the ICE vs EV drivetrain.