• Crikeste@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Palestinians have been pushed into a corner and are surrounded. What the hell would you do in their shoes?

    You can’t peacefully pull yourself out of oppression, because oppression is inherently violent.

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      Probably not murder as many civilians as possible, in a way that’s obviously bound to provoke even more violence from the overwhelming force you’re up against.

      Osama bin Laden killed several thousand Americans for exactly that purpose - but that’s the thing, having America burn a trillion dollars on an unwinnable was was his goal. In some sense he got everything he wanted, plus a bullet to the skull. The situation in the West Bank does not seem to be doing any favors for Hamas or Palestine.

      Probably making Iran quite happy though.

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      1 year ago

      Perhaps you can wage war with less war crimes.

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      1 year ago

      Maybe start by not murdering babies or people at a festival?

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        I imagine it’s hard NOT to be violent when your food and water are controlled by people who believe you to be sub-human animals.

        Also, Israel has dropped many bombs on many Palestinians, including children.

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          ״hard not to be violent”? This was a premeditated massacre committed by trained and armed militants. It wasn’t a riot or an angry mob.

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            Isreal actively kills children and celebrates it. Go read about the Great March of Return. So many kids killed by the IDF. That’s a lot more than “collateral damage”

            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/

            https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2021/palestine-know-their-names/index.html

            Also a reminder that children make up 47% of Gaza, and Isreal happily continues to bomb them, and cut off electricity and running water as collective punishment.

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                I’m not siding with Hamas here. I’m pointing out an overlooked part of all this. Isreal keeps 2 million people, half of them children, in an open-air prison, bombs them constantly, murders their kids for minor transgressions and then (shocked Pikachu face) an extremist element breeds there. They then use that extremist element as propaganda for further bombings and land theft.

                This is not a time to say “both sides bad” and move on. There is a cycle of violence here between two sides, but only one side here has the power to end that violence and it sure as hell isn’t the side being subjected to an Apartheid state.

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                    Yeah bro let’s just flatten Gaza…again. And then nuke Tel Aviv. Justice.

                    Did you read anything I wrote lol? The Palestinians have already been being punished for decades, yet the violence continues.

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                Does Isreal do investigations into the mountains of children they kill? Or do they just say they’re “investigating” when something like this is clearly bad optics for them.

                Isreal also undermines moderate Palestinian opposition in favour of Hamas, because they make good propaganda for them to justify their ethnic cleansing.

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                  Even taking your cynical view, is it not telling that Israel at leasts cares about the optics?

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                    Masquerading as a democracy for western support does not mean they kill children more ethically than Hamas.