• JasSmith
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    1 year ago

    You appear to be conflating economic migrants with refugees. I expect you to understand that both of those are immigrants. Are you just disagreeing with the English language now that it’s not convenient?

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      1 year ago

      The difference in literacy is what we’re discussing.

      Immigrants are:

      An immigrant is someone who makes a conscious decision to leave his or her home and move to a foreign country with the intention of settling there. Immigrants often go through a lengthy vetting process to immigrate to a new country. Many become lawful permanent residents and eventually citizens.

      They will have a higher literacy level than someone fleeing Afghanistan. It’s pretty fucking obvious. Perhaps you should take some time to learn the differences between refugees, asylum seekers and immigrants.

      https://www.rescue.org/uk/article/migrants-asylum-seekers-refugees-and-immigrants-whats-difference

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        1 year ago

        That’s not a dictionary, friend. That’s an advocacy website. Do you not understand the distinction?

        Merriam-Webster: a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence

        Princeton: a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there

        Cambridge: a person who has come to a different country in order to live there permanently

        They will have a higher literacy level than someone fleeing Afghanistan. It’s pretty fucking obvious.

        For the second time, no one is conflating economic migrants with refugees except you. I’m merely explaining that they’re both immigrants, as per all the reputable dictionaries.

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          1 year ago

          Lol, this is what you wrote

          You are deliberately talking over them. They’re clearly not claiming that all migrants are illiterate or uneducated or ill-prepared for work in Europe. They’re arguing that many are, and those migrants exacerbate our problems. They certainly don’t solve them.

          Migrants.

          It depends on the nation. The UN collects data. Afghanistan is 62.7% illiterate, for example. Further, Almost all refugees to Denmark have zero Danish language reading and writing skills. They must learn all of these. Slightly more (but shockingly few) have any English reading and writing skills.

          Surely it isn’t surprising to you that refugees have limited European language skills?

          We’re talking about immigrants, you made it about refugees you dozy turnip

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            1 year ago

            Both of those statements are congruent. The fact that you think they’re not is a damning indictment of the American school system.

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              1 year ago

              Sure, conflating the literacy rate of refugees with all immigrants is my error lol

              And I’m not American ffs. I’m from the UK, a third of immigrants to the UK are university students, pretty sure they’re literate, ya jabroni