• eric@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    And just like 9/11, they were warned of the attack weeks in advance but were still woefully unprepared to protect their citizens.

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      I’m worried that they DID know, and are using this as an excuse to further their agenda against Palestinians.

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            Well, it really did work in the US. This is literally what happened at Pearl Harbor.

            Roosevelt knew the attack was coming, very much so, our intelligence was good. But he needed the attack to happen, so he let it happen.

            At the time, Europe was at war and our allies desperately needed help, but the US had been dragging it’s heels about getting involved for years. Roosevelt wanted to enter the war and support our allies, but congress just didn’t want to make the official declaration of war. But after the attack on Pearl harbor, that declaration came in short order, just as Roosevelt knew it would.

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              This is untrue. This is a false conspiracy theory that people keep repeating that has no facts to back it up. This one bugs me because my grandfather was in the merchant Marines and was stationed there when this happened. People parroting that untrue fact drove him bonkers.

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                This is untrue

                Which part?

                Did the people stationed there get warned? Did merchant Marines have access to top brass intelligence reports? Did Roosevelt have a different motivation? Did Pearl Harbor not happen…?

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                    The problem with claiming the opposite, are things like Patton’s pretty much spot on prediction of the attack, the fact that intelligence at the time was routed through Washington, with capability to break the Japanese codes, or the still not declassified documents relating some pre-attack intercepts.

                    It all suggests that Roosevelt, and/or his staff, had all the pieces to figure out what was going to happen. Whether they didn’t, or did and decided to do nothing, and the lack of proof either way… is what makes the conspiracy theory keep being a possible conspiracy theory. 🤷

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        What was the prior situation with the reservists? Did they backtrack on their no show threats before the war broke or was the war what forced them to show up

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      It’s not that easy. There is constant information coming in all the time and intelligent agents need to parse signal from noise. It’s not every single bit of intelligence regarding an attack comes into fruition. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. This is an extremely difficult signal detection problem, one with lives at stake.

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        Also they did have radar signatures of the attack incoming but radar tech was new and they didn’t trust it.