• Wogi@lemmy.world
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      “the facts don’t align with the narrative I’ve selected! Clearly this must be propaganda”

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      Would you mind parsing that out a little further? Surely you’re not saying that it’s fine that the IDF is killing almost 500x the number of civilians Hamas are because they have the iron dome, and pointing out this fact is propagandistic?

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        100% not agreeing with this person, but I think their point is that if Hamas attacks, their attacks are likely to be blocked by the iron dome, resulting in no Israeli casualties. But if Israel retaliates, Palestine will have casualties.

        I think the thought process is to defend Israel by implying all the deaths they’ve caused is as a counterattack?

        Again, not defending it, just interpreting what I think was being implied. Even if my interpretation is correct, so much is still missing from the thought process.

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          This amounts to “You tried to punch me a couple of times and landed one, so I beat the shit out of you with 500 punches - it’s racist propaganda to point out that I did that.”

          There’s a reason I asked them to expand on what they said - I’m confident they’re trying to defend the indefensible, and I’ll just let them reveal that themselves.

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      A little more nuanced than that.

      Where did Israel come from? Who lived there first? Why was Israel set there and who deemed it all legal?

      Imperialism.

      People native to the area are shoved aside, money is sent to force those people being shoved aside and nobody is supposed to care they are shoved aside.

      I agree chart pushes a narrative but the narrative is not “Palestinians are crybabies about missile strikes”

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        Jews are natives to that area as well. It wasn’t just the people who today call themselves Palestines.

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          Okay. But also so are Palestinians and that was their land until the British changed it (Imperialism)

          Now who lives in open air prisons because of the other? Because it ain’t Jewish people.

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      Yes, cause pre-iron dome, which is on this chart 2008-2011, the death toll was much completely even.