• matcha_addict@lemy.lolOP
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    1 year ago

    You’ve failed to show any reasonable nuance. Saying “actually resistance massacre is also bad” is not nuance.

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      1 year ago

      Do you think Hamas’s attack can be critiqued? Can it be both partially justified and executed immorality?

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        1 year ago

        I don’t really expect infallible behavior from an unorganized militia bred in a concentration camp, resisting genocide. Some of them may have committed needless murder of civilians, but I blame Israel for putting them in that position and leading them there to begin with.

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          1 year ago

          So we can critique the needless violence? Is it just the leadership who is unassailable?

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            1 year ago

            If you’ve spent the last decades condemning the 1000x murder, brutality and ethnic cleansing done by Israel, then yes.

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              1 year ago

              I’m condemning the current blockade meant to starve everyone out.

              But why does what we’ve said in the past effect whether what they’re doing right now is right or wrong? Or if it is wrong, why can’t we say it?

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                1 year ago

                If you haven’t spent the last decades condemning Israel and only came to condemn Hamas, then you aren’t critiquing needless murder. You are condemning Palestinians for resisting.

                If you condemn needless murder, you would be concerned about needless murder when it is done by anyone, not just Palestinians. Otherwise your issue is with the Palestinians, not murder.

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                  1 year ago

                  I absolutely am concerned about murder done by everyone. That includes Israel. I have condemned then before, but not often because I haven’t heard of them often. But my past actions or lack thereof still doesn’t impact whether whether Hamas’s actions are right or wrong, or whether I should say that. If you think it should, you’ll need to make a better argument than just restating it again and again.