A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.

  • sheogorath@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If you smoke, you should be allowed to vape in an attempt to quit. But if you never smoked, fuck vaping. It’s too new to be thoroughly studied for health effects.

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      1 year ago

      They have been studying it for almost 20 years now and it’s, among experts, considered extremely safer than smoking. Sure they need to keep studying it but people throw this around like no research is done. There’s tons and it shows it’s vastly safer. They aren’t even comparable based off what we know.

      That said I don’t smoke or vape but did used to do both, and used vapes to taper off nicotine. 6 years no nicotine.

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      1 year ago

      I’m always curious - what is it that leads you to believe that you should be able to decide what other people may or may not do with their own bodies?

      I’ve never been able to wrap my head around that whole idea. There’s just no angle on it that makes sense to me.

      If I presume that people do have the right to decide what other people can do with their own bodies, then we end up with self-defeating chaos, since different people have entirely different, conflicting and even contradictory, views on that.

      But if I decide that they don’t have that right, then… they don’t have that right.

      I don’t see a chain of logic that can possibly lead to the conclusion that anyone does have that right, but it seems I can’t turn around without running into yet another person, like you here, who blithely presumes that they do.

      So really - how does that work? Inside your own mind, what’s the reasoning that leads to the conclusion that you, rather than the actual people who actually inhabit the other bodies around you, should be empowered to decide what they may or may not do with their own bodies?

      I just can’t make sense of it.

      • SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk
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        1 year ago

        You see this way of thinking about poor and disabled people too, as if being unfortunate enough to require government assistance means you lose your agency too.