• drislands@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    False dichotomy. There are more options than “do nothing” and “force the evacuation of an entire populated area before bombing the entire region to the stone age”. It doesn’t take a political genius to see that.

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      1 year ago

      Ok what are the options then? Let’s hear them in your view

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        The onus is not on this random internet commenter to produce an alternative. Can you really not think of one thing Israel could do that doesn’t involve glassing what’s left of a country?

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          Let’s see what they propose. Or you for that matter?

          If Al qaeda was based in Canada and constantly attacking New York what would the U.S. have done post 9/11? Just leave them alone?

          The truth is there no good option here. Elimination of Hamas is the only option and it will be bloody for both sides, partially due to Hamas use of Palestinian citizens as human shields. Hopefully after Hamas is removed from power Palestinians can elect leaders who don’t call for the complete annihilation of Israel and Israelis can elect moderates who are open to negotiations as well.

          Unless you are among those who think Israel should be dissolved in which case you are not actually interested in a peaceful solution for all sides.

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            Even if “eliminate Hamas” is the response, forcing the entire population out and bombing the whole fucking place is not the only way.

            Doubly so, because if you kill and/or displace hundreds of thousands of civilians, how many of those do you think will remain civilians, and how many will subsequently be bolstering the numbers of Hamas?

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              1 year ago

              What is the other option here other than Israel surrendering to Hamas?

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        1 year ago

        Give the Palestinians full rights, return their stolen land, compensate them for this genocide, I have more just ping me

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          So you’re not interested in a solution that is realistic (ie allows the state of Israel to remain). Guess you don’t actually want peace.

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            1 year ago

            Actually, I believe in a one-state solution where it’s renamed back to Palestine (you know, to return the culture Israel tried to erase) with a single government of both Palestinians and Jews where everyone has full rights and gets to vote. All the former Israelis can stay. Those who have committed war crimes (weather from Israel’s side or otherwise) would be tried.

            Jewish people should not have to be kicked out of their homes like they did to the Palestinians. “Never again” applies to everyone. They should be allowed to stay, but not settlers who have physically stolen homes from Palestinians in the past few years (and injured or killed many of them), those can fuck off to jail.

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              What you are calling for is a fantasy. The second Israelis did that they would be wiped out.

              I live in reality - and we all need to - if we want this situation to finally come to a peaceful conclusion.

              By the way I agree with you regarding the settlements. They are a provocation and moderate Israelis need to stop them and hopefully will once Netanyahu and his rightwing cronies are thrown out of office.

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                The reality is that this is caused by decades of oppression and the first step to stop it is to stop the oppression,