Australia’s voice to parliament Polling catchments where Indigenous Australians form more than 50% of the population voted on average 63% in favour of the voice

  • Nonameuser678@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    That was in booths where the population is at least 50% Indigenous. It’s difficult to capture these demographics directly so they have to do it by % Indigenous population in each booth / area.

    • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      But that just makes the numbers even more meaningless. While it might be very likely that most of the Yes votes came from indigenous people, it’s also possible that 100% of the non-indigenous people in that area voted Yes and a majority of indigenous people voted No.

      Stretcing 63% of the overall vote into an overwhelming majority of indigenous people lacks journalistic integrity.

      • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        You would expect non indigenous votes to track similar patterns to other nearby polling stations. Consider the pretty smooth gradient we see with yes vs no generally.

        It’s not unreasonable to expect non indigenous voting to track the 60% no. It would be strange if they didn’t, possible but not really a reasonable assumption.

        So in a 50% place with a 60/40 split you might expect somewhere like the (previously indicated) ~80% voting yes. Perhaps a bit lower, but still high support.

        Again, this isn’t the only indicator of indigenous support given the earlier polling.

        • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Sure, in casual conversation it’s a reasonable assumption. That doesn’t hold for journalists writing news articles - particularly when it is stated as fact and not clarified. You have to analyse the numbers to realise the headline is hollow.

          • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            1 year ago

            No that’s literally how statistical inference works. If you think they’ve made an error submit a letter and get them to retract the article.

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              1 year ago

              No it isn’t, there’s a massive gap in the statistics where the inference should be derived from. If you think I’m wrong then explain it, don’t brush it off without actually saying anything meaningful.

              How can you infer that an overwhelming portion of one group supported something when all you have is the combined level of support and no statistics on the individual groups, other than a ratio of population size?

              It’s an assumption, it’s not labeled as such, that’s bad journalism.

                • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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                  1 year ago

                  Yeah, sure, if I call them out for poor journalism standards they’ll just roll over and accept that, because this article totally wasn’t written with that deception in mind.

                  There’s no statistical analysis here, as you implied, it’s just a bunch of regions with their population size and overall votes. Hell, many of their numbers didn’t even fit the narrative - they had a large majority indigenous population but more No votes, more than the nation overall. It’s just bullshit and hand waving to get you to accept it as true without really thinking about it.

                  You’re trying to set an impossible to prove boundary so you can claim that you “win” the argument. That’s bollocks. If you don’t have anything meaningful to say here, yourself, then kindly bugger off.