The nug:
While assertions have been made by both sides about the incident and death toll, the available evidence is less clear. However, analysis of the video footage rules out most explanations aside from an Israeli strike.
The devastation underlines the heightened risk civilians are facing as tens of thousands flee the north, on Israeli orders, during hostilities. The bodies of at least three children can be seen in multiple clips verified by the FT.
At least 1,400 Israelis have been killed, according to the government, including many women and children. At least 2,500 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli bombardment, about half of them women and below the age of 18, according to Palestinian officials.
On Saturday, Israel told Gazans that it would refrain from bombing two evacuation routes for six hours, including Salah-ad-Din street, where these explosions took place, so that civilians could continue to move south
It’s terrible what happened to Israelis and a reaction is understandable. But they’re doing the same and more to equally innocent people on the other side. I’m no expert in that conflict, but no side seems to be in the right here.
One side is oppressed. While the other is the oppressor. So not totally equal or complicated
Very true, everyone also intentionally overlooks that. Nelson Mandela was called a terrorist by the South African apartheid state.
Nelson Mandela didn’t murder civilians. That comparison is horrible.
When you decide to become an illegal settler, you stop being a civilian. Pretty simple.
Hamas attacked a concert called the festival of peace and love, which was mostly attended by young Israelis that would vote against Palestinian oppression. Those aren’t the ‘illegal settlers’ that they should be going after.
If Hamas would have literally targeted anything militarized with their attacks, they would have much more support from the world. Instead they chose to go after the easiest and most peaceful target that they could find.
The IDFs and Israeli governments actions are just as bad, with their targeting of civilians, and genocidal assault. They have been terrible to the Palestinians for years and are just as culpable for this escalation.
I’m not saying anyone in is in the right here, because it’s all terrible. Free Palestine, but fuck people who go after innocent civilians on both sides.
Oh, I’m sorry, a bunch of rich white kids getting high and dancing 2 miles from a concentration camp were going to change the world? Give me a break, they didn’t give a fuck about Palestinians and they weren’t doing shit for them by getting fucked up at a rave.
No shit dude. I didn’t say they were. They were a bunch of kids partying in the desert. They also werent the fucking oppressors of Palestinians. The younger generation was actually mostly for human rights in Gaza unlike their elders.
They didn’t fucking deserve to be slaughtered and it was one of the dumbest moves Hamas could’ve made. They lost a lot of support with that one attack. There were so many other things that they could’ve attacked that people would understand.
If you think a bunch of kids partying in the desert deserved to have their lives ended because of the actions of their government, then you are a Sociopath and you should seek help.
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Amnesty International refused to support Mandela because he was involved in violent resistance. History does not magically change when a resistance wins and becomes the government. Most Israeli prime ministers were once (and for many still are) regarded as terrorists too.
People have a right to fight for their freedom. The appropriate response to this (if Israel actually cared) is not to push them down and kill people, but to pull them up by developing their economy and social systems.