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  • Joker@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    It’s about keeping Iran out of it so it doesn’t escalate. Have to demonstrate a willingness to get involved while doing the diplomatic work behind the scenes to de-escalate. They are telling Israel they can have their revenge on Hamas but they need to bring things down a few notches. Don’t occupy Gaza, don’t starve them out, don’t commit war crimes, make an effort to avoid collateral damage, etc. At the same time, they are telling Iran they don’t want a wider conflict but are ready to fuck them sideways if they even think about escalating. Israel doesn’t need any help fighting unless someone else piles on.

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        1 year ago

        They don’t. They care about keeping this from escalating into a very dangerous regional conflict with the potential to spread further. Israel is absolutely justified in going after Hamas. What they are actually doing is beyond what a reasonable response would look like. Nobody besides the bad guys cares if Israel goes and kills some terrorists, but they can’t displace a million people who had nothing to do with it and then starve them out. In a matter of days, Israel went from being the victims of a heinous attack to committing war crimes on a massive scale. That can’t be. It makes it hard to support Israel and we also can’t turn our backs on an ally. It’s an untenable political situation for the U.S. and risks a major conflict. The U.S. is serving its own interests.

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          1 year ago

          Israel is absolutely justified in going after Hamas.

          Why? Does Israel want a refund?

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      1 year ago

      How’s that working out for the US?

      Starving ✅

      War crimes ✅

      Collateral damage ✅

      The US is toothless and their foreign influence is nonexistent even for a country that’s one of their closest allies.