• pyromaster55@lemmy.world
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    What Hamas did was horrible, a terrorist attack and atrocity for sure, but we’re watching an actual genocide and half of the world is cheering it on. I feel like I’m talking crazy pills. What the fuck is wrong with people and what can we do to stop this?!?

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        1 year ago

        They should’ve peacefully marched and protested!

        …. Like they did in 2018 and got brutally shot down by the dozens of thousands, with thousands of dead and more than 10 times that maimed for life with their knees destroyed, intentionally, by IDF soldiers as they laughed? When they marched peacefully towards the walls and barriers, making their concerns heard in protests and absolutely nothing got better and no one cared?

        In any case, we all know everything we’ve ever achieved was done through peaceful protest. Like the civil rights movement! MLK made some speeches and the white bourgeoisie felt bad and changed all the laws.

        Don’t look into how MLK was murdered and there was mass protest and revolt with plenty of violence before any changes ever happened…

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        Don’t you see! You can challenge your oppressors with peace and forgiveness!

        Dorky ass motherfuckers who wouldn’t last a single day under the Israeli foot.

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        This is a bullshit excuse for violence against innocent bystanders. You can (and Israel supporters DO) apply this exact same argument to Israel: “And what exactly SHOULD they do about HAMAS, Mr. Smarty-pants, just let terrorists run pel mel, unpunished?”

        I don’t have an affirmative answer; if I did I’d be happy to collect my Nobel peace prize. What I do have is the understanding that “but you just don’t understand, it’s justified when WE do it” is a giant crock of shit, and it’s the lie that every oppressor through the ages (including Israel) has told themselves.

        Edit: Other countries need to step up their game. It’s plain to see what’s happening in Palestine, even with the internet and electricity blackouts imposed there, so one can only imagine how much worse it really is. The US and others need to step up and denounce this shit, tell Israel to go to the bargaining table for real or they’re off the teat for good.

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              No, seriously. If you don’t have an answer then you have to defer to the people struggling on the ground. You don’t get to moralize to them when they’re fighting for their lives against genocide.

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        Hamas is built on violence as the answer. They took over from the more pro-negotiation fatah party in 2006. So Hamas isn’t really built to do anything except violence.

        Here’s a great overview with more info, it seems pretty objective. https://youtu.be/kttN_6qVQg8

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      i’ve given up caring about it edit: i should’ve clarified myself. i do wish the best for people that are affected by this “war” (idk what to call it) but i’ve simply given up caring about who wins or what happens on any war or attack. in the end it’s people dying and that makes me sad so i simply try not to care about anything like this

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        The 2.5 million in Gaza sadly don’t have this privilege and can’t stop caring.

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            The only threat the people in Israel are under right now is their own state waging war.

            Most Israelis are living their normal lives still. Parties and clubs still happened over the weekend without issue. It’s been 9 days of 2.5 million Gaza-ians not having a drop of water, an ounce of food, or a minute of electricity imported.

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              Just thousands of rockets raining down on them. You know, perfectly normal life.

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                Again, their own state waging war and genocide. Tired of war? Stop waging it. But clearly those partying over the weekend aren’t.

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            9 million in Israel under constant rocket fire.

            Sorry - please remind me… what are they doing in Palestine again?