This makes no sense to me. There’s people in the comments literally telling me to go kill myself and that’s fine but, me politely disagreeing is worthy of a 30 day ban.
This makes no sense to me. There’s people in the comments literally telling me to go kill myself and that’s fine but, me politely disagreeing is worthy of a 30 day ban.
I’m well aware of that. It’s the reason I’m on Lemmy on the first place. I love a good, long debate but I still try and be polite and listen to the counter-arguments and engage with what people are saying instead of attacking them as a person.
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Judging by the comments here, I’d say it isn’t working. (That doesn’t mean it’s necessarily your fault at this point.)
All I want to say is: You and the people outright attacking you here are setting the tone of the conversation. I don’t feel entitled to lecture anyone on how to spend their time on the internet. For me, this thread is too toxic and not my vision of what Lemmy should be like.
Unfortunately, the really toxic people have arrived here, targeting you and spreading hate. I don’t think this going to become a productive conversation after that. And I really don’t have good advice here. I’m going to flag the comments that are hatred and then I’m out. I’m going to focus on some more productive things somewhere else. I wish you the best. Hope Lemmy strives to become a space for diverse opinions, constructive debate and not hatred and small-mindedness.
B-but I just want to have a civil debate about why genocide is ok, why won’t anyone be nice to me? Wyahhhhh, such toxicity! People are so small minded if they can’t accept ethnic cleansing :(
There’s a user in this thread calling us the genocide deniers while Israel unceasingly and unrepentantly destroys Gaza and its people. Like. No self awareness. No historical awareness. Just ‘Oh I have a more nuanced view of the situation’. Nuance my fucking gooch.
Dudes, Duderinas and people from all around… While I said something in the meta-debate here, I’m not engaging in the underlying argument. What are you trying to accomplish here? The people you are talking about are suffering horrible atrocities. All you can think about is hating on each other on the internet… (There has to be a better way to deal with the situation.)
Is pineapple good on pizza? <— a debate
Are human rights guaranteed to all humans? <— a fucking ghoulish question that you deserve to be mocked for “debating”
I’ve asked what the mocking itself accomplishes.
Have you asked the same question about your disingenuous hand wringing? 🤔
Sorry, can you please re-phrase that question?
They’re hexbear users. Don’t even waste your time, they are prejudiced and actively hostile towards anyone who isn’t on their server. They only seek to disrupt and mock any discussion that deviates from their incredibly naive and confused perception of human civilization.
Once you’ve crossed the line and started advocating for violence and genocide, it becomes emotionally impossible to accept that you might be wrong about anything, because that would inescapably mean that you’re actually a bad person. Thus, they reflexively go on the aggressive to proactively disrupt arguments that could potentially expose the contradictions inherent to their worldview.
There’s not much that can really be done to get through to these individuals, because their defense mechanisms are incredibly well developed and supplemented by the codependent echo chamber that they have built specifically to protect themselves from the undue discomfort of ever having to contemplate the possibility that, just maybe, they don’t have all the answers.
That being said, it’s a problem that will naturally disappate as Lemmy grows. The best way to combat their toxicity for the time being is to ignore/block them, imho. More than anything else, they are trying to convince themselves and each other of their righteousness. Their actions have repeatedly demonstrated that they consider users from other servers to be inferior (frequently to the extent of being subhuman) and thus they are not worthy of serious engagement.
I do enjoy analyzing the psychology behind it though, if you couldn’t tell 😅