Todd Howard: “You may need to upgrade your PC for this game”

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    The shot wasn’t done at night, it was made during the day. You can clearly see sunlight in the image that shines onto the structure on the left.

    First of all, your still shot is purposefully omitting the movement of the waterfall

    That’s called a screenshot. How am I supposed to capture the movement of a texture in a still image? It also doesn’t make a whole lot of difference. The waterfall still looks like sewage even when it moves. Contrary to your claims, a real waterfall does not look like this, even at night or in the shadows. Why would the water be dark gray? It builds up foam when it falls down, so it’s white. There are numerous pictures out there on the web of waterfalls in shadows and they all look white. Just an example.

    Your whole post reads like you somehow need to defend this game at all cost. I had a lot of fun with Starfield, but the technical issues are glaringly obvious. And there is no shame in admitting that. Especially, since this is just meant to be a meme for shits and giggles. ;)

    This game isn’t perfect but one thing it is, is absolutely beautiful

    I’m sorry, but that is not true at all. There are beautiful areas, like the Neon planet, for example. But there are also a lot of barren planets with barely any materials or assets on them and these look really, really bad.

    I just fired up the game again and landed on a random planet in my area (Al-Battani 1-C):

    It’s just the same type of rock everywhere and the same type of hill everywhere. To me, this just looks boring and visually uninteresting.

    Compared to that, the Neon world looks great:

    Neon is probably what you had in mind. But you cannot say that the game is “absolutely beautiful” with these extreme jumps in visual quality. And this meme is an example for an area on the main hub world that looks bad, so even those aren’t always well-made either.

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      The shot wasn’t done at night

      I said it was made at dusk, at a point where the sunlight is clearly not hitting the waterfall. Don’t even try to engage if you’re going to purposefully ignore context to try to “win”.

      I notice you also ignored the fact that these pictures are taken in completely different lighting conditions. Probably because you know its disingenuous.

      Yeah man, that’s called a screenshot. How am I supposed to capture the movement of a texture in a still image?

      There are things called GIFs. Not sure if you’ve heard of them.

      Also maybe don’t pass off a screenshot as a true representation of a game’s graphical fedelity if you know that a still image is omitting important elements of said fidelity.

      Your whole post reads like you somehow need to defend this game at all cost.

      Oh here we go, your brain is starting to shove me into the “paid shill” camp because I disagree with you. Fun fun.

      I have no problem with fair criticism. In no way is this a perfect game and it’s not for everyone and there’s plenty Beth needs to improve. But when I see shit like this, you’re damn right I’m going to call it out for what it is.

      Let’s throw this back on you. This defensive response seems to imply that you absolutely need to shit on a game other people like with out of context and unfair comparisons without any reprisal at all - for shits and giggles.

      Well fuck you, bro. Tearing down something for laughs is garden variety toxicity. And if you can’t take the criticism, then don’t start it in the first place.

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      You apparently edited your post with a picture of a barren moon as evidence that the game is ugly.

      Yeah…it’s a barren moon with no life, one biome, and presumably 2 resources, at night, what the fuck do you expect? Light and shadow are both important elements of beautiful landacapes. The absences of light and shadow makes things look dull and featureless, both in real life and in video games. Notice your comparison Elex screenshot has a lot of light in it.

      That said, I have gorgeous pictures on barren moons of say, the milky way unrestrained by an atmosphere, or Jupiter rising over the horizon of Io, or a sunrise catching the rings of a nearby planet.

      And no, I’m not talking about Neon. Try going to a planet with a variety of biomes other than “craters” that actually has life on it.

      Seriously man, why are you trying so hard?

      • lichtmetzger@feddit.deOP
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        I said it was made at dusk

        You didn’t, this is what you wrote:

        You basically took a picture of a babbling Brook at noon and a waterfall at night

        I didn’t specifically took the screenshots at a point in time where the ingame graphics look the worst. I just went on a mission with my companion Sarah just like usual and took this screenshot in the process. Because when I looked at the scene I thought: “Goddammit, that is just the worst graphics I’ve seen in a long time, I have to take a picture here” :D

        Oh here we go, your brain is starting to shove me into the “paid shill” camp because I disagree with you.

        I paid a hundred bucks for the Premium edition of the game and as I stated in numerous comments, I actually enjoyed playing the side content, I just didn’t like the main missions and the skill grind. How can I shove you into a camp that I’m a member of, myself?

        I have no problem with fair criticism.

        You clearly do, because you’re snapping right now. I don’t even know why you take this meme so seriously.

        Well fuck you, bro.

        That was uncalled for. I made the effort to prove my point, I even fired up the game again although I’m already finished with it and took screenshots for people that don’t own the game to see what I mean. And now you’re just insulting me. I think it’s time for me to back out of this discussion, because I’m not the one that’s making it toxic.

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          You didn’t, this is what you wrote:

          Uh huh, and I also said this:

          You also took this picture at dusk, when the plaza is draped in shadow and there is no sunlight directly bouncing off. If you’d even been to a waterfall this tall in such conditions in real life, you’d know they actually look more like this

          …Which you’re conveniently ignoring because you’d rather argue on semantics and ignore relevant context rather than address the content of my response.

          I didn’t specifically took the screenshots at a point in time where the ingame graphics look the worst. I just went on a mission with my companion Sarah just like usual and took this screenshot in the process. Because when I looked at the scene I thought: “Goddammit, that is just the worst graphics I’ve seen in a long time, I have to take a picture here” :D

          Wrong. You saw this highly specific situation, thought it looked ugly, took a screenshot, then fired up Elex to find a shot that looks better - with different context and lighting conditions - and then crafted a single image to compare these very different shots of very different games with the explicit purpose of shifting on a game because you have a beef with it.

          …for laughs?

          I paid a hundred bucks for the Premium edition of the game and as I stated in numerous comments, I actually enjoyed playing the side content, I just didn’t like the main missions and the skill grind.

          Okay, good for you? All this explains is why you have a beef with the game. But from my point of you, if you got enjoyment out of it, great.

          You clearly do, because you’re snapping right now. I don’t even know why you take this meme so seriously.

          Uh huh. Here’s the context of this thread:

          • Nobody:
          • You: Starfield is so ugly that even Elex looks better. Look at this highly specific comparison.
          • Me: No it’s not and here’s why your comparison is wrong.
          • You: Rawr you can’t handle criticism! Why won’t you let me meme?

          Who’s snapping at who? I provided you reasons for why your comparison is wrong - which you have not addressed. You didn’t have to respond to me. But you did. And here we are.

          I made the effort to prove my point, I even fired up the game again although I’m already finished with it and took screenshots for people that don’t own the game to see what I mean.

          No you didn’t. You fired up the game and found another highly specific example - an unpopulated spot of a barren moon with 2 resources at night, because you refuse to address my reasons becausr the only meat for your arguement is to create more disingenuous comparisons.

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            1 year ago

            …for laughs?

            God forbid someone comes to a meme community for laughs. 😆

            People can make jokes about games they actually like, you know. Maybe you should get out, take a breath of fresh air, calm down in the process and accept the fact that you’re on [email protected] and this whole discussion is totally pointless.

            Or just write another essay the length of Macbeth because someone posted a gray waterfall on the internet. It’s totally healthy and not ridiculous at all…you could also just drop another F-bomb to prove your point, that was really great discussion culture.

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              God forbid someone comes to a meme community for laughs. 😆

              Its more sad than anything that you thought your jpeg was funny.

              drop another F-bomb

              Cry about it a little more buddy. I’m loving it.

              People can make jokes about games they actually like, you know. Maybe you should get out, take a breath of fresh air, calm down in the process and accept the fact that you’re on [email protected] and this whole discussion is totally pointless.

              Lol k buddy. I’m responding in between gardening breaks - but sure - whatever helps you justify disengaging.

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                  Lol I love that I’ve offended you so much that you took time out of your day to find two of my comments and come up with comment-specific insults. Give me more of your tears. They’re so delicious.

                  • Nudding@lemmy.world
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                    I just read through the thread lmao, it’s easy to come up with “comment-specific insults” when my eyes turn the squiggles on the screen into words in my head. Ain’t no tears here friend, just laughing at your essay fails