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Israel’s military suggested on Tuesday that the United Nations ask Hamas for fuel supplies after the U.N. agency providing aid to Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip warned it would have to halt operations on Wednesday night if no fuel was delivered.
The agency, known as UNRWA, posted its warning on social media on Tuesday. The Israel Defense Forces reposted it and said that Hamas militants have more than 500,000 litres of fuel in tanks inside besieged Gaza.
“Ask Hamas if you can have some,” the IDF wrote.
You think it’s dumb because you’re treating the Israeli government as a monolith. The likud party was vehemently against those peace deals and Netanyahu is known to have refused further diplomacy with Arafat once he took power in 96. Why would they not pursue policy they explicitly advocate?
If you’re an extremist party that supports the militant settlers in the West Bank then Hamas is the perfect casus belli to keep pushing for the one state solution the most extreme Zionists want.
The only reason you’re denying historical facts is because you’re determined to defend your own position at all costs.
You haven’t responded to anything I’ve cited. Just a vague allusion to me being totally biased. Attempting to sidestep the actual points I’m raising is a sign of intellectually dishonesty.
I did respond to your claims
You go afield a lot. Whether there is strife within Israel’s right wing and whether right wing people are psychopaths in general, is neither here nor there.
Bringing up the US is a non sequitur.
As I already stated in my previous response (ironic considering your insistence that you are responding to my claims), Israel is not a monolith.
“To suggest they funded Hamas to sabotage peace deals they wrote…”
Who wrote those deals and who propped up Hamas? Do you think it was the same people? That’d be pretty idiotic. Again, the Israeli government is not a singular entity but a collection of politicians, each with their personal/collective ideologies.
It was Rabin’s moderate coalition and others that set up the accords and it was right wingers like Likud that propped up Hamas and scuttled the deal. Different people were involved with these events and I’ve made that pretty clear multiple times so cut the shit and stop being disingenuous.
Is that clear enough for you to understand?
You seem to think you’re teaching me things, but really you’re just getting into the weeds over meaningless, useless details to try to seem smart.
I am aware of everything you’ve written but it adds nothing to the actual discussion whatsoever.
This is not a fact. This is a thing you made up and tucked into your rambling in the hopes it comes across as fact. You’re implying intent where it does not exist.
Israel didn’t have to play 5d chess if they wanted to just take Palestinian land. They could’ve just done it, whenever they wanted. These conspiracy theories are worthless in practice.
I haven’t made up anything. You just don’t want to accept the facts I’m sharing. Why else would you ignore the details to make character assassinations towards me?
Explain how Netanyahu and Likud actively opposing a two state solution during Oslo means their known support for Hamas had nothing to do with undercutting the contemporary peace talks. Couple that with the known fact that Netanyahu refused to meet with Arafat upon taking power. You’re being willfully naive and it’s sad.
Sure Netanyahu’s Israel could act like Russia and not care about pr but that’s not how you keep your allies closest. For all your condescension you are profoundly stupid and disingenuous when it comes to thinking about this. They play the same game of geopolitics as everyone else, you’re just too stubborn to consider it.
It’s not a character assassination to suggest your bias is clouding your judgment.
Lmao
It is when you refuse to elaborate and act like you staying this makes it true in and of itself. I’ve laid out a line of reasoning and you’ve just smugly accused me of bias.
Laugh all you want but all you’re doing is proving me right about you with every response.
Your line of reasoning is flawed in ways I’ve already pointed out.
Laughing at your temper tantrum is not an endorsement.
Not that you seem to care about the facts, but read this.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
Lmao I’ve read this.
It’s also been linked like 6 times today so whatever podcast or thread you’re all getting this from isn’t really great.