Before anything else, I would like to say that I admit systemd has brought great change to GNU/Linux. sysvinit wasn’t the best, and custom scripts for every distro is a pain I’d rather not have.

With that said, Poettering now works for Microsoft, systemd has basically taken over all of the common/popular distributions (if this is about the argument of “systemd making it easier for developers”, disclaimer: I don’t know. I’m not a developer), and this has led to a rampant monopolisation of the init system.

Memes aside, this has very real consequences. If you don’t want another CentOS-style “oof, sorry, off to testing” debacle happening with your init system, might want to look at the more “advanced” distributions that let you choose the init system.

I am well aware that systemd works well for the most part, and that gamers and most other people likely don’t care - which is fine, at least for now. I do expect to see a massive turnover in sentiment if something ever happens to systemd (not that I’d like for that to happen, but no trusting RedHat anymore), but I suppose we’ll get to it when we do.

My sentiments are well enunciated in this recent post on the Devuan forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5826

Cheers!

  • woelkchen@lemmy.world
    113·
    1 year ago

    The main argument coming against it is not following the “Unix philosophy” which I’m a proponent for

    Gosh, don’t use a “GNU’s Not Unix” system then!

      • woelkchen@lemmy.world
        21·
        1 year ago

        I think you’re confused about what “Not Unix” means in the name “GNU’s Not Unix”.

        Nah, I’m not confusing anything, I just decent to the level of people claiming that systemd was not following the Unix philosophy.

    • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.worldOP
      32·
      1 year ago

      I don’t really have a choice in the matter: most software is written for GNU/Linux systems, which is Unix-like at best. I agree that Linux has had many improvements since then, and I wholeheartedly support and applaud Linux for what it has achieved as a project.

      If there was a usable Unix derivative (different from *nix clones) I would seriously consider it, but I don’t think there’s much development other than AIX and what was Solaris by Sun.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.world
        22·
        1 year ago

        I don’t really have a choice in the matter: most software is written for GNU/Linux systems

        And here I’m sitting, thinking that more software is being written for Windows and macOS, a UNIX® Certified Product. (Don’t look up Apple’s launchd, your brain would meld trying to reconcile your insane claim that systemd “is not following the Unix philosophy” when launchd certifiably is.)

        That said, GNU’s Not Unix, so GNU/Linux does not have to follow an archaic philosophy anywhere.