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      Skyrim is a great game… for its time. Todd Howard is the blight on the games industry for putting so many resources toward so many Skyrim remasters/re-releases/money grabs. Even if he outsourced all that work, those are dev houses he could have spent their time helping Bethesda actually fill their huge open worlds and perhaps get the same feeling of “every decision actually matters” that Larion did.

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        It’s good in some ways. I was disappointed in the removal of attributes and how the equipment stats were kind of simplified and boring. The lack of proper stat scaling, since there’s no stats.

        I was also sad to see spellmaking go.

        There’s still plenty of good in it, don’t get me wrong.

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      Skyrim is twelve years old.

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          No. Dragon Age: Inquisition, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, and Baldur’s Gate 3 all draw influence from Skyrim. I think open world games are better because of Skyrim.

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            Dragon Age: Inquisition and Witcher 3 both began development in the same year Skyrim released. I don’t know if I can really say they were influenced by Skyrim because of the timing, but I haven’t played either.

            Baldur’s Gate 3 drawing influence from Skyrim I will have to vehemently disagree with. That assertion just makes no sense at all.

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              Are you saying none of the developers played Skyrim? Even if you’re designing to not be Skyrim, you’re still influenced by it.

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                Are you saying none of the Skyrim’s developers played Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2? Did you?

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                  Did RPG game developers play an RPG before developing an RPG? Yes. That’s how influences work. I didn’t play BG1 or BG2 because I was a child.

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                    Did RPG game developers play an RPG before developing an RPG? Yes.

                    So, what the point of your comment about Skyrim then ?

                    I didn’t play BG1 or BG2 because I was a child.

                    Maybe you should begin with that before saying Skyrim had any influence on BG3, don’t you think?

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        So many games wanted to be the next Skyrim, and so they brought over a lot of its systems and design choices. Including the bad ones.

        The flood of games going open world, reliance on mods, and marketing through memes.

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          I can’t think of many games that do that. I can’t really think of anyone that tries to be like Bethesda games in the bad ways.

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        I don’t think Skyrim was a bad game, but I think it set a bad precedence for Bethesda. Oblivion wasn’t terribly good, but with the success of Skyrim it showed they could simply reskin an older game and be profitable. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Fallout: New Vegas, and Starfield are all the same game reskinned.

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          To say Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Starfield don’t have a place in Video Gaming is pretty absurd. I don’t love any of them, but they aren’t harmful and predatory like some other titles.

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            I think you’re the only one who said anything about not having a place in gaming. I can’t find anyone else mentioning it, so you’re either just arguing against your own comment or stating a non-point.

            Also, Elder Scrolls was one of the first games to introduce predatory microtransactions with the Horse Armor DLC in 2006. They have even been credited with being the grandfather of the concept. I would argue that seems pretty harmful.

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        People enjoy shitting on things and loudly, hyperbolicly saying that they are objectively bad and the worst thing ever. Especially Skyrim.

        It’s ok to not like the game or even hate it. Doesn’t make it objectively bad or somehow the downfall of video games.