I don’t really see the point of this. It’s just adding complexity for the sake of it. As far as I can tell when you change gear it just changes some software parameters, there are no physical gears. Yet there’s a clutch and the ability to stall?

  • alvvayson@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    52
    ·
    1 year ago

    The point would be to fill a niche for people who like driving manual, but want to transition to electric.

    Probably won’t be very popular, but in this big world, there is a niche for everything.

      • Codex@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        1 year ago

        People in niches generally pay more. EVs are more expensive and made in smaller quantities (until production ramps up, maybe). So making EVs to appeal to a niche consumer with disposable income can be a smart move to jumpstart the EV business.

        That’s (one reason) why Tesla started with luxury sports cars. Car enthusiasts and other lovers of manual gear shift are another interesting segment to try and tap. I wonder what other segments they might go for? Racing? Off-road? Delivery? Taxi? Commercial transport?

        It’s tricky though. You don’t see a lot of EV motorcycles, but I think that’s because ebikes are a better power/weight ratio for the form-factor and use case. No one’s getting a Harley to save the environment.

        • misanthropy@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          1 year ago

          The biggest reasons ev bikes suck are: shitty range, weight, cost.

          Bikes are small, batteries are heavy. The Harley live wire, for example, can do less than 100 miles on a charge. Second, but part of that first point, they’re HEAVY. My bike weighs ~360lbs. An energica sport bike is in the high 500lbs range. Thirdly, they’re obscenely expensive for worse performance, handling, weight, range. If someone could produce a 400lb bike with a ~200 mile range I might be interested.

          I’m biased, but 99.99% of my riding is in the middle of nowhere in the mountains, there’s no chargers out there and there won’t be for decades.

          • Captain Aggravated
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            I’ve not seen an attempt to make a practical electric motorcycle. I’ve only ever seen attempts at superbikes. Give me an electric Ninja 250, something that can comfortably handle a couple hours of highway driving so you could handle a commute from one small town to another small town and I think it would be an actual product.

            • Aux@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              There are plenty of practical e-motobikes, they’re just made for people in normal countries where you don’t need to ride for more than 10-20km.

            • SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              Kawasaki recently launched some entry level electric Ninjas, but they’re complete garbage for the price. $8000 for a bike with 10hp, 55mph top speed, and 55 miles of range. That should’ve been $4000 or less.

              Just get a $3500 Grom with the same power and speed but also the fun of a mini-bike or a $6000 Ninja 400 with 5x the power and still 55mpg.

              Kawasaki also just announced a hybrid Ninja motorcycle that actually looks really intriguing, but we don’t know the price yet.

      • BlackVenom@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        This stuff trickles down. AC, auto headlights and windows, touchscreens, information centers, etc were all luxury options for luxury cars…

    • Chris@feddit.ukOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      I sort of get the point of the second one they mention - sounds like it can “emulate” hundreds of different cars, which could be fun.

    • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      If I had the time, money, and knowhow my dream car is an electric swapped Datsun 240z. You can keep the manual transmission when you’re swapping an ICE car, I think it’d be pretty neat