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  • Tangentism@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    So you didn’t bother to read my comment then?

    If you’re too lazy to do that, why the fuck should I put any effort beyond this in replying?

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      1 year ago

      I did. Replacing the government with one less bad would be good, but what should such a theoretical good government do in response to the Hamas attack? For example, I think more fewer air strikes and more ground combat would be better for minimizing civilian casualties, though more Israeli soldiers would die as a result.

      • Tangentism@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Restore Palestine to the 1917 borders. Grant all Palestinians equal rights within those borders. All zionists who were involved in perpetrating war crimes either directly, or indirectly via policy, to face trial at the Hague

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          1 year ago

          That would desolve the state of Israel wouldn’t it? That isn’t really tennable for an Israeli government to do.

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            1 year ago

            I really don’t care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years.

            They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2.

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              1 year ago

              Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful.

              • Corkyskog
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                1 year ago

                They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants.

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                  1 year ago

                  To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis?

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                    1 year ago

                    Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections.