While true, it’s interesting that the SOC in the “pro” models have started adopting a “pro” branding for the first time.
So it’s quite likely that they will give the equivalent processor minus the “pro” features to the base model next year.
I am betting that USB 3.x is a “pro” feature.
No, they tend to use last year’s Pro chip in this year’s base model. The A16 only supported USB 2.0 speeds last year in the iPhone 14 Pro model (despite the iPads showing us that Lightning does support USB 3 speeds), and it’s what’s in this year’s iPhone 15 base model.
The A17 supports higher speed through the USB Bus, so there’s no reason to hold that back for next year’s base model.
The thing that’s notable this time is that the pro chips are branded with “pro”.
This absolutely means that next year the base models will get the same chip except it’s stripped of some features and its “pro” branding. The question is which features. I am betting it’s USB 3.0.
So it’s quite likely that they will give the equivalent processor minus the “pro” features to the base model next year
Actually… that’s unlikely.
This year’s “Pro” processor is fabricated on TSMC’s 3nm N3B process that has very low yield rates - Apple is apparently taking up 90% of the global production capacity for N3B fabrication even though they only use it with relatively low volume “Pro” chipsets.
They’ll surely have better yields next year, but it would still be nowhere near enough to put them in the mainstream iPhone models. TSMC has said they have a new process (which will require new chip designs) online now, and that’s what next year’s mainstream iPhones will use. Manufacturing might have already started (for a late next year launch date).
But that’s exactly why last year’s 14 Pro came under so much criticism for its slow wired connection: the phone itself supported capturing high resolution, high framerate, high bitrate ProRes video, but didn’t have a way of quickly transferring directly over a cable.
But also, even regular photos and video can take up a big chunk of space, and having a non-cloud option for practically backing up the contents is helpful.
Do you really use USB-C to transfer data or to charge your phone? It’s been years since I used it for data, so I don’t think that’s a problem, in a world where cloud is becoming the norm.
You’re being downvoted, but you’re right. The majprity of apples users will not use the port for data. There’s a couple use cases, but they’re all niche
That’s my point, maybe it wasn’t clear enough. I think people that need to transfer a lot of data often to and from their phone can justify taking the Pro model (photographers, video makers, etc)
Even back when I used android (I switched earlier this year) I found it far faster and easier to move data wirelessly than over a cable, even a USB-C. First I had to fight with my computer and phone to connect to one another… Or I could just upload to box on my phone, refresh on my computer and move the file.
Funny enough, I did so just last month. At first I tried it over wireless but it was far too slow. I was moving dozens of GBs of video to my phone. I do that whenever I’m prepping for a plane flight.
Fuck apple. I love that the EU is constantly forcing them to be less shitty. And apple no doubt is super pissed. Being shitty is their business model
@TrickDacy @apple_enthusiast 😂😂😂😂
To the tune of throttling their newly forced adoption of USB-C.
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While true, it’s interesting that the SOC in the “pro” models have started adopting a “pro” branding for the first time.
So it’s quite likely that they will give the equivalent processor minus the “pro” features to the base model next year. I am betting that USB 3.x is a “pro” feature.
No, they tend to use last year’s Pro chip in this year’s base model. The A16 only supported USB 2.0 speeds last year in the iPhone 14 Pro model (despite the iPads showing us that Lightning does support USB 3 speeds), and it’s what’s in this year’s iPhone 15 base model.
The A17 supports higher speed through the USB Bus, so there’s no reason to hold that back for next year’s base model.
Yes, I am aware.
The thing that’s notable this time is that the pro chips are branded with “pro”. This absolutely means that next year the base models will get the same chip except it’s stripped of some features and its “pro” branding. The question is which features. I am betting it’s USB 3.0.
Actually… that’s unlikely.
This year’s “Pro” processor is fabricated on TSMC’s 3nm N3B process that has very low yield rates - Apple is apparently taking up 90% of the global production capacity for N3B fabrication even though they only use it with relatively low volume “Pro” chipsets.
They’ll surely have better yields next year, but it would still be nowhere near enough to put them in the mainstream iPhone models. TSMC has said they have a new process (which will require new chip designs) online now, and that’s what next year’s mainstream iPhones will use. Manufacturing might have already started (for a late next year launch date).
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Not an excuse when pretty much every other phone has it and has had it for many years.
And the “pro” branding is just branding bullshit anyways. It doesn’t mean anything.
Pretty much every other phone huh? Weird.
Yes, pretty much every new-ish phone (and old-ish when talking flagship phones)
Of course the very cheap budget options don’t.
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It’s stupid and it’s apple’s fault for being behind their competitors.
It’s not illegal, just fucking stupid.
I won’t buy an iPhone anyway because of their software.
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But that’s exactly why last year’s 14 Pro came under so much criticism for its slow wired connection: the phone itself supported capturing high resolution, high framerate, high bitrate ProRes video, but didn’t have a way of quickly transferring directly over a cable.
But also, even regular photos and video can take up a big chunk of space, and having a non-cloud option for practically backing up the contents is helpful.
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“hey they didn’t add a governor to the car, it’s just a shitty motor that they happened to decide not to upgrade”
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Lol @ the idea of buying a device that with its every detail tells me that it knows better than I do
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Do you really use USB-C to transfer data or to charge your phone? It’s been years since I used it for data, so I don’t think that’s a problem, in a world where cloud is becoming the norm.
You’re being downvoted, but you’re right. The majprity of apples users will not use the port for data. There’s a couple use cases, but they’re all niche
That’s my point, maybe it wasn’t clear enough. I think people that need to transfer a lot of data often to and from their phone can justify taking the Pro model (photographers, video makers, etc)
@BURN @SuperFola iOS development is one case…
iOS development linking can now be done wirelessly, and from all accounts it works 95-99% of the way
@BURN true… I still use a cable for reliability. Sorry to have interjected here😅
You’re good, I had the same ask a while back when discussing if they could go portless
If you’re using a platform that doesn’t try and force you to do everything wirelessly, a cable that runs full speed is very useful actually
Even back when I used android (I switched earlier this year) I found it far faster and easier to move data wirelessly than over a cable, even a USB-C. First I had to fight with my computer and phone to connect to one another… Or I could just upload to box on my phone, refresh on my computer and move the file.
Wait what? I bought a USB drive for transferring between my phone and computer, what is this ‘box’ you speak of?
It’s basically dropbox or Google Drive.
https://www.box.com
Has nothing to do with the concept of a cable.
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Funny enough, I did so just last month. At first I tried it over wireless but it was far too slow. I was moving dozens of GBs of video to my phone. I do that whenever I’m prepping for a plane flight.
You’re sort of a one trick pony aren’t you? All full of Apple hate. Must be a bitter life you lead.
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Ooh, fallacy fallacy, always the best way to respond to a fallacy.
Troll harder.
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