I get that, if things are not changed on the Apple side, websites can’t have proper notification so you are forced to have an app but on android PWA (Progressive Web Apps - basically websites on steroids) are a real thing and you can just “install” the lemmy website of your instance and avoid any bloated app. Are you looking for an app with some feature missing from the website? Are you just unaware of the possibility of installing the website itself? I don’t want to sound rude (English isn’t my first language) but I don’t get what to me looks like an obsession to have a bloated app installed on your phone
I’m an Android developer, I usually spot a non native app immediately and the flaws in the ui are really annoying. Web apps are even worse.
To me, properly optimized native apps tend to be less-bloated than their web equivalents. Have you ever used “RIF is fun” for reddit? It is amazing, lots of tiny UI optimizations make it a pleasure to consume content much faster than scrolling up and down reddit’s UI for both links and comments
Jerboa is almost 70 times bigger than the PWA …
Are you going to ignore the rest of what I wrote? lol
Have you ever used “RIF is fun” for reddit? It is amazing, lots of tiny UI optimizations make it a pleasure to consume content much faster than scrolling up and down reddit’s UI for both links and comments
The app just feels better/faster. Think of this way: a webapp = browser + pwa. You have all of the resource requirements of the browser itself, plus whatever it needs to render the html/css of the webapp. many webapps are just written so poorly (like the new reddit page) that the browser struggles to do simple things like smooth scrolling).
If none of this matters to you and a webapp feels ok to you, that’s great! use what you want! I’m happy for you
But you came in here asking why people prefer native apps and we gave you an answer, you don’t have to be antagonistic
first things first … English isn’t my first language and I’m sorry if I sounded antagonistic. I’m a bit frustrated because, a lot of users doesn’t even know about PWA and they asks for the development of mobile apps when their needs can be fulfilled with a PWA
I don’t recall using RIF for reddit, I remember trying a lot of app and feel like I was let down by them so I switch to the browser. It did what I need, I didn’t even feel it lagging while scrolling. Ok, PWA doesn’t have access to some native API (and I’m not even sure if apple finally gave up and let its users have browser push notifications) but for some usecases this isn’t a problem …
PWAs work for sure, but you can really tell its just a full screen mobile website in a vast majority of cases. I am in no way saying PWAs are bad, but with apps that hook into APIs you have much wider latitude for how the data is presented and design choices
Can’t you just write a new web frontend? without having to write an entire app?
That is a possability
so why do people asks for mobile apps instead of alternative web frontends (besides iOS users that are locked by apple)
man mobile apps are just a needless burden to carry around. instance owners are the ones who moderate them as well, like its a one-man band. instances that arent breaking down and that get to be quickly upgraded are the fittest to survive. we dont need to accomodate ios users and we dont need apps that uploads videos in 4k quality, and ones that include the rest of the bells and wisstles. i really hope that things stay this way and i hope we stay a minority, that way our communities stay healthy and sustainable. once quantity starts to be valued more over quality thats when the ends begins and things start to get worse for everyone. i am 💯% on ur side.
The experience on the website is awful on mobile, while it’s fairly good on desktop
Awful? I actually like it a lot. Why do you think it’s awful?
The UX is trash and it’s graphically unappealing
Are you just unaware of the possibility of installing the website itself?
I haven’t heard about this, and I suspect that plenty of people are in the same situation. How do you install a website?
It’s almost the same thing as creating a shortcut from your phone to the website but those websites are usually build with more features and can use notifications, can works offline, etc etc https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9658361?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&oco=1
Ah lovely, thanks
glad to be helpful
https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/tree/main/tafkars-lemmy they should really just wait for this, honestly.
is it some kind of proxy that translate from a format to another to help moving the reddit apps to talk with lemmy? My question remain … why an app instead of a website?
Because sync for reddit is absolutely better than the lemmy website in just about every feasible way.
