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    7 months ago

    Say it with me kids. Downloadable weights and source available != open source.

    Don’t let people keep misrepresenting LLMs with downloadable weights as open source when they’re not. “Open source” is a specific term that had a specific meaning long before modern LLMs became a thing.

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      47 months ago

      Yes, but also weights aren’t like code. We could use a new term maybe, but legally-unencumbered weights are in the same spirit as open source code IMO.

      I guess what would you like to see instead? Keeping in mind that although things are looking good legally, it’s still enough of a gray area that people are avoiding talking about what data sources their models were trained on

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        27 months ago

        LLaMa isn’t just weights. It’s code too. Including source code. And the license the code is under does not qualify as Open Source according to the most official definition of “Open Source” out there.

        And yes, weights aren’t code. I also don’t want to see photographs and novels referred to as “Open Source.” “Permissively Licensed” or “Open Culture” or just being more specific about the license terms of such a thing (“Creative Commons” or something) would be preferable.

        Meanwhile, LLaMa isn’t legally unencumbered. The license it’s under restricts uses in ways that are fundamentally in opposition to what Open Source means and what the movement behind it stands for.

        (It could be argued that “legally unencumbered” isn’t even a good way to describe “Open Source.” Lemmy is published under an Aferro GPL which only allows running/hosting Lemmy for use over a network under the strict requirement that the hoster provide the Lemmy source code or the source code of their potentially customized fork of Lemmy to any user who accesses the service over the network under the same software license. That’s definitely encumberance, but encumberance in service of the user’s rights.)

        Open Source – real Open Source – is important. I see Meta’s misuse of the term as an attempt to dilute and undermine that Open Source stands for.

        I’ve published a fair amount of code I’ve written under Open Source licenses and I don’t want to have to explain to people that when I say my code is Open Source, I mean actual open source that protects the rights of the user and doesn’t discriminate and not the malicious misuse of the term Meta means.

        And, I must disagree that what Meta’s doing is “in the same spirit as Open Source.” If they wanted to be “in the same spirit as Open Source”, they could at least make the code actually Open Source. But they’ve intentionally chosen to make it not Open Source in some specific ways.

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    37 months ago

    Good. Generative AI gets people riled out of fear, but the tech is here to stay. The only way we can minimize its harms are to democratize it as much as possible, and open models are an important part of that. Stop trying to put the genie back in the bottle, and give everyone a bottle instead.