• RxBrad@lemmy.world
    1·
    a year ago

    And this is how you gut the Fediverse… Don’t even give people the option to run their own single-user instance to avoid the drama. Defederate them, too. Splinter everything into oblivion.

    EDIT: Seriously. As someone who isn’t a hardcore militant FOSS federation activist, this is the kind of stuff that makes me want to throw up my hands and say, “Screw it. I guess I’ll go sign up at Threads.”

    • lattenwald@lemmy.world
      1·
      a year ago

      I would agree with you if threads didn’t choose to avoid market with decent consumer protection laws, EU.

      They aren’t launching at EU for a reason, and that’s good enough for me to take a stance against them.

      • SUPERcrazy3530@lemmy.world
        0·
        a year ago

        Just because they haven’t launched in the EU yet doesn’t mean they won’t. They were clearly rushing to get this out the door. I’d be absolutely shocked if they don’t go to the EU since Facebook and Instagram are there already.

        • Kinga@lemmy.ml
          1·
          a year ago

          Facebook is in a lot of shit with EU right now because of GDPR non compliance. They are at a risk of just getting flat out booted from here if they don’t fix their shit.

          That combined with the upcoming Digital Markets Act means they might not get a chance to launch here at all

      • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        a year ago

        Won’t they have to comply with at least some EU laws in order to become federated? If EU residents can interact with Threads via another instance, they’ll still be on the hook for all of that mirrored data.

    • animist@lemmy.one
      11·
      a year ago

      EDIT: Seriously. As someone who isn’t a hardcore militant FOSS federation activist, this is the kind of stuff that makes me want to throw up my hands and say, “Screw it. I guess I’ll go sign up at Threads.”

      Nobody is stopping you

    • theDoctor@lemmy.sdf.org
      0·
      a year ago

      I guess everyone else replying to you doesn’t get what you are saying.

      They aren’t threatening to leave like it matters. They are expressing concern that preemptively defederating with anyone that hasn’t blocked Meta/Facebook/Threads/Insert_Bad_Actor_Here is a horrible idea.

      No one is saying that we shouldn’t defederate with Meta. We are saying not to make the mistake of fracturing a community that, in internet terms, is in its infancy.

      I’m willing to bet most people here don’t like being told that they can’t do something for arbitrary reasons. So why would you care what another instance is doing? If you don’t like your instance, move. If you don’t like another instance personally, block them.

      Defederation is a powerful tool when necessary. It can block toxic communities, stop raids, and remove spam centers. But defederating by association is a drastic step.

      Edit: And the comment of

      this is the kind of stuff that makes me … say “Screw it. … I guess I’ll sign up at Threads” Has no one responding seen all the posts by people confused about Lemmy as is?

      You know how you kill Lemmy, fracture it and make it so difficult to find/understand that the general populace, not early adopters, not techies, normal people give up.

      So if you want this content you have to go here, but they won’t talk to this other place, so if you want that stuff you should get another account and go over here… oh and these guys won’t talk to anyone so you will need another account for them.

      And where will they go? Maybe a place run by a company that they already use. With a shiny new app… AND 30 MILLION PEOPLE that already have it.

      Congratulations, in your attempt to kill Meta you have just alienated the vast majority of potential users and sent them straight to that which you were trying to destroy.

    • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
      01·
      a year ago

      This isn’t FOSS behavior, this is just liberal virtue signaling behavior. I was hoping this behavior stayed on Mastodon where I purged a lot of it. Was really hoping that plague wouldn’t hit Lemmy.

        • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.eeEnglish
          0·
          a year ago

          Wait until you realize that liberal does not mean left wing. Liberalism is a right wing ideology.

          edit: to the guy who replied and blocked, complex political ideologies aren’t reduced to just a simple 4 way political compass lol. Don’t get your political knowledge from r/politicalcompassmemes

            • katve@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              0·
              a year ago

              I’ve had multiple conversations about liberalism and come to realize there’s a multitude of definitions none of which make complete sense. A left-wing definition might be “liberal democratic capitalism” like most of Europe is, with neoliberal being a more right-wing version of that like the US. A right-winger might use liberal to mean someone culturally progressive. Sometimes liberal is used to mean someone who wants a smaller government, sometimes it is confused with libertarianism (which was originally left-wing but co-opted by free market capitalists).

              I don’t think the term “liberal” is useful anymore, it’s mostly thrown around towards people you perceive to be the status quo.