• foggy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    There are two wars that America is having internal debates on whether or not to aid them. One side wants to aid one war, and the other side wants to aid another war. Neither seems to be interested in the war the other is interested in.

    I mean I’m not the only one saying it, but it smells like WWIII.

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        1 year ago

        What does succeeding mean here? Because I’ve heard different people have different takes on that. Do you mean gaining any land compared to a year ago?

        Edit: is there some baggage I don’t know about tied to this question? It was a genuine question. I don’t why it’s downvoted without any responses.

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          They need to absorb Ukraine. They need it to reach Moldova, Romania and Poland. They are hoping that west will give up (perhaps US get trump again who will gift the Ukraine to putin).

          The thing is that while in Ukraine there’s actual hot war. Russia is fighting hybrid warfare with the West, and it is way better at it than us. All the disinformation, qanon etc might seem like not a big deal to some, but those people also have views changed and are willing to fight with its own government. The BLM protests in 2020, and current attempts to make people fight over Israel VS Palestine is current attempt.

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            So succeeding for Russia means taking all of Ukraine? I just don’t see that happening with the latest reports talking about how firmly digged in both sides are right now. I honestly think Russia lost their chance at taking all of Ukraine when their initial invasion “failed”. Maybe I’m missing something though.

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              1 year ago

              Russia knows Ukraine can’t keep it up if they don’t get external support. They are heavily invested in disinformation in the West to promote anti Ukraine sentiment. If Ukraine stops getting supplies they will have no chance.

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      That’s a neat story but doesn’t bear much relation to reality. The Democrats want to fulfill the US’s obligations to both Israel and Ukraine, whereas many Republicans want to see Russian flags flying in Kyiv. The Senate Democrats blocked the Israel-only package because the Republican Congress may then not send a Ukraine package, hence the Democrats wanting the two together.

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      1 year ago

      Everyone I know is saying it too.

      What really stuck out was Putin withdrawing / moving equipment and people, at the same time he’s withdrawing from the nuclear test treaty, all while theyre in a “stalemate” with the Ukraine. I know it’s a testing treaty that even America was never in, but something seems fishy, and no one seems to really be talking about it.

      Isreals war is pretty obvious on its face, (You see who’s throwing punches at whom, in the news) but if Russia nukes Ukraine, it’s going to be a whole other animal.