• Stamets@lemmy.worldOP
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      For real… It’s always astounded me in the first place. I’ve only ever looked at it like a social contract. Quebec here in Canada has had a few times in the past where they’ve voted to leave the country. When asked about all the services that the Canadian government provides and who would provide them now, a huge amount of people repeatedly blanked. For some reason no one ever thought that “If I’m not part of the group, I don’t get the benefits of the group.”

      Apparently that shit applies to idiots as well. “I hate fascists! Fuck them! They’re horrible people! They must be treated the same as us and be kind to them! Tolerate their beliefs even though those beliefs are actively calling for the death and extermination of entire groups of people!”

      There isn’t enough off on this planet for them to fuck.

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        Nazis always want their beliefs to be heard in the marketplace of ideas right? So that we all can debate them. I generally do the opposite of what Nazis want to do.

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      The only way to be anti-fascist is to be fascist against fascists you don’t like.

      That’s the irony of these things, including tolerance, it clearly doesn’t work, and that’s why in 2023 we still have around 200 countries and each of us still wants to live on their own property and not with a massive group of people.

      I don’t have to tolerate anyone outside my property, and this has been proven to work for entire human history. Even countries that officially don’t like eachother and spam propaganda to their own citizens keep trading weapons and other things, so there’s 0 benefit in kissing anyone’s ass except to look better in front of others.

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        Translation:

        I’m an intolerant asshole and I don’t like tolerance because then I might not get to be intolerant

        Again, nobody is making you abide the social contract. You’re mad about an invented problem

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          Try being tolerant for once and see how long you last.

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            You sound like someone who tried to be nice to someone once and swore it off entirely when they weren’t nice back.

            According to your own logic, I can do exactly as I want and you can fuck off. So what’s the point in being here arguing with people? Like, do you think you’re going to change some minds? Or are you just here to insist that people listen to you about your right to not have to listen to them?

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              My very first post started off with the fact that I won’t try to be nice to anyone, so I’m now unironically concerned for your mental health.

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                My very first post started off with the fact that I won’t try to be nice to anyone

                I’ve got another little bit of irony for you. The guy that said this is trying to call someone out for calling him an asshole like it’s attacking his character and not directly commenting on this thing where he said he was going to be an asshole. Funny right?

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                Well now, that’s not consistent at all. That position might actually reflect a little tolerance and empathy. But I thought you said you don’t do those things?

                Or is it, like I originally pointed out, that you don’t actually understand the concept of tolerance, and what you’re fighting against is just the buzz word that you’ve learned?

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                  It is perfectly consistent. Indifference doesn’t reflect neither tolerance nor empathy because unlike those two it’s actually real and in fact worked for many humans for entire human history. For 99.99% of people globally, all they want from me is to not give a fuck just like they don’t, then of course there’s you who thinks himself special.