Remember when they were boasting that VAR will result in 98.8% of decisions being correct lol
Tbf they do get a hell of a lot more right than wrong, just the right ones aren’t worth talking about.
1 out of 3… Nothing to see here, as you were 🤷🏻♂️
No one cares about what some pundits think, they don’t have jurisdiction and make decisions regarding officiating.
We just want consistency and quality referees. But that won’t happen for a while.
66% failure rate on the 3 absolutely match altering decisions is disgraceful, but the lack of consequence for the failures even more.
Again, post match whatever these panels or whatever the hell the want to call themselves means fuck all. If these people were so good put them at the VAR duty so that correct call can be made DURING THE MATCH.
Funny that. They decide that the match defining call was correct but happy to hold their hands up to the other two.
It was a foul for the goal. It’s fucking simple. Cowards.
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Apparently there is not enough evidence in that picture
Probably because, just as football fans rage over other VAR decisions showing refs just the still image, a still image doesn’t show enough evidence. Go back slightly from the where the still image is, you’ll see Gabriel jumps upward slightly, before then flopping himself.
I don’t mind getting downvoted into oblivion by fans who disagree with this, but go take a careful look for yourself, without bias, and you’ll see Joelinton doesn’t impede Gabriel, and Gabriel’s movement is inconsistent with if he’d been pushed, hence he can’t have been pushed.
Still won’t stop Arsenal supporters from moaning about it.
I’ve never felt closer to spurs supporters than in the last week
OP is a United fan and this is basically a repost
I mean they voted that Havertz tackle was a red 5-0 and that Bruno’s was a red 3-2… their findings are hard to deem credible.
Also the screenshot provided for the havertz tackle is completely misrepresenting the point of contact. AFAIK the only foot that made contact was the trailing left foot that stayed on the ground. The right high foot completely missed.
These fucks are trying to make us root for Arsenal over Newcastle
If the Joelinton tackle isn’t a foul either then it’s going to be really easy to defend crosses if you can just push over the attackers.
They are dishonest to their federation.
Would love to know how “independent” these folks are. What’s the point of making their identities hidden? They could have side hustles in the middle-east for all we know…
R/soccers obsession with the Havertz one not being red is bonkers to me. It’s the definition of reckless.
I dunno, expecting 100% unanimous is not how things work though. That’s why you have multiple people on a panel. Came to the right decision at least now
Why are people so hung up on the voting results? Isn’t the outcome the same?
Football is as subjective as boxing now,
I feel like this so called “PL Independent Key Match Incident” committee proceeded purely to discredit Arteta’s statement. Sky Sports & PGMOL are all both in cahoots to protect each other & prop each other’s interests. This is why they can suddenly conjure Howard Webb for a cheeky little guest appearances on MNF.
And to see they’re trying to dust their hands with the Havertz tackle, when if we look across 10 matches it was clear that the ref’s on field and VAR were systemically not interested in giving straight reds for harsh challenges that weekend.
Only one player got a straight red for an equivalent dangerous challenge and it was in the box and after he already should’ve gotten one for violent conduct.
But the thing is, football laws are subjective for the most part to the individual interpretation. That game was anomaly, not the norm. I will always be a firm believer that if you need to watch the play more than once to make a decision, whatever ref decided is the correct call.
If we keep playing and replaying these instances, and yet we have major divide on the correctness of the calls, then these arguments are invalid.
Arsenal was unfortunate because of the end result, but the whole disgrace to football is just bullshit to make their fans feel better about the loss.
That picture of the Havertz tackle is also weird, given he only touched him with the left leg. Don’t know why that should be a clear red tbh, even if he had some speed
That’s always the case when they use single frames to discuss events of the game. Joelintons push looks a lot worse in the photos that everyone uses than it does in video form. That’s not me saying it isn’t a foul, more so that the photos make it look a lot worse.
If he had made contact though (and it was a matter of inches) there was every chance of a career-ending (or limiting) injury. That would have been a lot of force into a planted leg.
Red without any hesitation.
He absolutely did not only hit Longstaff with his left leg. His right leg catches Longstaff, it was pure luck it didn’t hit him hard enough to do serious damage.
Thats what I thought about the Havertz tackle too.
I mean it was a rough tackle no doubt. But he didnt try to ‘get him’ with his leading foot. He clipped him with the trailing foot and because of that I dont think it was reckless.
This sounds pedantic but they weren’t voting on whether it was a red or not, they were voting on whether the VAR intervention was correct. And yes, for the record I think it makes very little difference here and I’m surprised it wasn’t unanimously agreed as wrong. But I can only assume they disagreed on the basis of whether its ‘clear and obvious red’ as opposed to red card at all.
Referee didn’t see it at all, meaning any potential red should refer the referee to thr screen so he can make a judgement, let alone such a blatant one.
Who is part of this independent committee?? Unless we know that how can we truly know it’s independent?
??? why always the first image that is shown in havertz tackle? That leg doesn’t even catch anyone
You just wake up this week mate? Old news with at least one post already.
Joelinton has two stretched arms in the back of Gabriel, how is that not a freekick?! 👀
The Bruno incident probably doesn’t even happen if Havertz gets correctly sent off. He’d completely lost his head in the aftermath to that and half-time came at a good time for him.
Ok cool. But what is going to change to prevent wrong calls in the future?
Wish I could make mistakes at my job and not have to be responsible for it.
The goal call was correct, and thats the important one.
An apology, according to pgmol