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      I’m not trying to fight.

      Oh really? You taunt me earlier with your “Will you honor the question? What are 6 different uses for guns?”

      And then when I reply in good faith with 9 things, you a) completely ignore everything I wrote and b) try to change the focus of conversation from whether guns have only a ‘sole purpose of killing people as fast as possible’ and into a broader philosophical argument about guns in general being used for destruction.

      The wooshing sound of the goalposts you just moved is deafening. You do not discuss in good faith, and now are just guilty of textbook sealioning.

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          Edits are date/time stamped. My unedited comment included all 9 items in the very first submit. I later made a minor edit to correct some typos and spelling errors. You can see the timestamp of my edit was 7 hours ago. Your replay was posted 5 hours ago…that’s 2 hours AFTER my only edit.

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              No vendor is selling their guns advertising how fun they are to make up.

              This is a huge part of the build community, vendors know it, and vendors specifically cater to it. In fact, there in an entire industry built up around supporting and selling to this community. I have no idea how you can make this claim from the position of complete ignorance on the topic.

              You are saying that the purpose of a gun is to go in a box. Not a purpose. A shoes purpose is not to go in a box.

              Yes, and that’s true for the vast majority of them. Most are just display pieces that are never even fired.

              Yea let’s get that eneegy out woo! How fun. What are the bullets doing to the targets?

              It’s not for you to shit on what another person finds fun. That’s pretty lame of you and is a textbook ad hominem fallacy. Blanks don’t do anything to targets. Neither does laser gear, which is very popular these days for indoor practice. Bullets that hit a target, obvious go into or through the target…which, for the vast majority of bullets fired, is either a paper target or a piece of wood.

              People gotta eat. What does the gun do to the animal?

              Ideally…kills it swiftly. You’re point? Are you forgetting that the only part of the article that I challenged was that the “sole purpose is to kill people as fast as possible”? You love trying to move goalposts and get onto tangents don’t you? You do understand that killing-animals is not killing-people right?

              Need to stay safe. What happens to the dangerous animal?

              Answered this already. The linked article is saying “sole purpose is to kill people as fast as possible”…so why are you continuing to imply that animals are people?

              I’m not trying to say it isn’t fun to do that, but it isn’t a gun’s purpose. No vendor is selling their guns advertising how fun they are to make up.

              Yes it is, and yes they are. There’s an entire community built up around this along with vendors who directly support those communities.

              The only thing i am saying is guns are meant to destroy.

              Some are. Lots aren’t. And even among the some that are, it’s not necessarily humans and not always “as fast as possible”. I’m not disagreeing that we need to change the way we think about guns and make changes. But that’s not the topic of this debate. The topic of this debate is whether the sole purpose of them is to kill people as fast as possible. And that’s clearly not the sole purpose. They have a lot of other purposes. I’ve demonstrated that. Just go look at the statistics. As of 2020, there were about 20 MILLION AR15 style firearms in the US. If the sole purpose for them was to kill people as fast as possible, we’d already be extinct a thousand times over. We’re not…because that’s not their sole purpose.