This post is not only to try finding the best Mastodon instance/server but I also wanted to express about the Mastodon instances. Most of Mastodon servers are apparently harsh about other instances that include things they don’t like and are quite serious about getting those Internet points putting how the place isn’t welcome for “bigotry” and is for everyone and so diverse, and I wouldn’t have any problems with this if this wasn’t frequently used by people who will try to shut you if they disagree enough with you and will try to present themselves as so virtuous. You’d expect that the free side of the Internet would have people that value freedom and should let anything that isn’t a crime or something that prejudice the instance itself or whatever space they’re in but it seems this vision is getting far from the reality with time.

  • Milk@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
    14·
    1 year ago

    It’s not an opinion, that’s the system most countries’ laws use, where the criminal should pay an equivalent amount for the actions they made, be money, jail and even death in some cases but also other punishments that are not as frequently applied or known.

    • BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml
      4·
      1 year ago

      it’s a fact that some countries have laws like that, but it’s your opinion that you should be treated that way everywhere you go and in every situation. and comparing the laws of some country and how some country treats a crime like theft to how a mastodon instance treats behavior of which it disapproves like bigotry is a false equivalence and a straw man.

      • Milk@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
        14·
        1 year ago

        If you will, I may state that is also the opinion of the majority of people. If you don’t expect or accept a country acting like a ass just because it can then why should you do the opposite for anything else? In fact very little things change from this specific comparison as it should remain this way. Both share basically the same characteristics except that one is virtual and a private place open to the public while there other is real and is public.

        • BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml
          4·
          1 year ago

          If you will, I may state that is also the opinion of the majority of people.

          what statement is that, exactly? and what is your source that it is the opinion of the “majority of the people” what people?

          If you don’t expect or accept a country acting like a ass just because it can then why should you do the opposite for anything else?

          we are not discussing countries, nor are we discussing how they act towards each other. e are discussing mastodon instances and their internal rues of conduct. as I said before, this is both a false equivalence and straw man.

          Straw man

          A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man”

          False equivalence

          A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges.”

          moving on…

          In fact very little things change from this specific comparison as it should remain this way. Both share basically the same characteristics except that one is virtual and a private place open to the public while their other is real and is public.

          by ignoring the vast differences in context and scope to pick out what tiny similarities there may be, you are:

          Cherry picking

          Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally.

          if you have to perform such mental gymnastics to make your point, you might just as well give up, as you’re convincing nobody.

          • Milk@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
            14·
            1 year ago

            So you don’t say anything of consistency just to say afterwards that someone is doing the specific thing because you think that makes you seem smarter than you are. But you would look smarter if you instead said anything with meaning and then said I was discussing something entirely different, instead of, you know, say basically absolutely nothing; it would still be dumb but you already chose the worst way so I don’t believe you would have problem choosing the second worst.

            • BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml
              4·
              1 year ago

              the only thing consistent about you argument is that it is consistently flawed as I have consistently explained, and that you consistently blame me for your own consistent failures at rational discussion and comprehension— which I have also pointed out, consistently.

                • BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  I have explained my position fully, simply, and repeatedly. If you still fail to comprehend, that is not my problem. at this point you are clearly

                  Sealioning

                  Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”, and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings. The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki, which The Independent called “the most apt description of Twitter you’ll ever see”.

                  • Milk@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
                    14·
                    1 year ago

                    That means you bring nothing, okay. I mean, at least you bring a lot of terms to describe yourself so… “I see that as an absolute win.”