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With hookers and blackjack
To him that’s just family. Literally. Dude needs to be in prison.
Edit: downvoting me won’t change the fact he raped his four year old sister.
Don’t know why people are downvoting you, allegations are serious. He’s an abuser if his sisters claims are true and there’s a lot of them over a long span of time, they’re consistent, and the dude was fired for lying to the fucking board of directors.
Classic rich family squabbles. I do fucked up shit, mommy and daddy bail me out and target weakest of brood. Pretty standard stuff unfortunately it seems to me.
vague allegations of abuse are only evidence for clout chasers. while she might be a victim she only started talking about it when his brother became successful. the link you shared also says it’s essentially her word and there is no factual evidence, is also very suspicious howall the family decided to side with the brother.
With what i have read its clear she has suffered over the course of her life and for that i am sympathetic.
But its impossible to know for sure what and how complex the source of that suffering is. That she is uttermost convinced there must be other victims from both her brothers seems inconsistent with her wider allegations systematic household abuse including from her mom.
Not just the entire family. She alleged that even her therapist was against her.
Allegedly. Saying allegedly doesn’t mean she’s a liar, it just means saying something is a fact has a high standard of evidence, especially when it’s something as important as this.
Omg that’s absolutely disgusting if true.
Is there not a single rich CEO who isn’t a mental outlier in some way?
It’s a prerequisite for the role.
Haven’t heard anything bad about Ryan Cohen.
That’s because he didn’t grow up ultra rich. After another decade with billions he’ll end up as corrupt and sociopathic as the rest of them.
John Mackey seems nice
lol, what is your standard for facts?
I’m gonna call it ClosedAi.
Imagine downvoting because I actually posted source. Stay mad.
As far as I can see, the sexual acts are not made explicit and allegedly happened when she could barely remember or understand anything, and she went almost 2 decades without saying a word. Then they have a dispute over an inheritance for his benefit, and a couple of years later when he becomes famous she accuses him publicly without providing evidence or denouncing him to justice.
I don’t think there is enough to point to, let alone the current aggressive harassment campaign; but anyway, sadly we have already seen similar things even with anonymous accusations.
Pretty common to have a hard time with details when your subconscious literally shields you from it.
What harassment campaign are you referring to? His sisters claims of a multitude of abuse?
You and every other abuse denier ought to think twice about doubting someone who’s clearly asking for help, even if they turn out to be a lying greedy shit stain. The alternative is that, if you’re wrong about it being a lie, you make someone’s hell 20x worse and give abusers power. You stand nothing to lose by standing by someone asking for help.
If you go through my comments, it’s easy to tell I’m a devils advocate addict. But when it comes to abuse claims there a pretty easy default stance you can take by siding with the abused or completely abstaining from making any judgment calls on either side until more info arises. Sometimes no stance is best.
Not to mention the reason the dude was fired from the company… sounds like a he’s a pretty classic example of a manipulative and controlling person.
Lastly need I point to rape claim statistics, and the rate at which ceos in America are sociopaths??
You know what else is abuse? Slander and false allegations – these can easily shatter lives completely.
There’s no point in your dichotomy of choosing to side with the victim or the abuser if you can’t determine who is who. You only know who the accuser and accused are, and if you choose to side with the accuser without good reason, it’s like deciding whether or not to support the abuser by flipping a coin; essentially a witch hunt.
You and every other abuse denier
First, you establish who the victim is, and then you unveil my dark denialist secret. Does the crystal ball have customer service in case I’m not satisfied with the divinations?
We’re in agreement on innocent until proven guilty. But that doesn’t remove the public’s opinion. Both sides are being critically looked at, so as a whole I guess we’re doing the right thing in questioning.
I just find it odd that a good natured sibling would knowingly send a sibling who has asked for money from you in the past a fucking diamond made from their father’s ashes.
That behavior right there to me starts to paint a pretty specific picture in my minds. I mean come on. Throw out all the allegations and look at just the stuff that’s provable immediately (if she took a pic of the diamond and some texts). She mentioned the abuse to her mom when she was young in a way that was consistent with abuse victims stories and there is not shot in the mother loving world that some little kid is gonna magically shit out those same patterns.
There, to me, is motive for him to act the way he has. There is evidence that he has purposely lied or withheld info from people (a board of directors nonetheless).
The dude who wrote the LW post,which was a beautiful example of good neutral writing, was nearly immediately banned on Twitter. Interesting that the same banning techniques that Annie mentions. Could be coincidence, maybe banning on Twitter happens more now with musk in charge - not sure.
This stuff just piles on and on. It just fits way damn well. He’s still innocent until the law is involved but I have to side with the alleged victim in this case, for this reasoning. I can’t see what facts could possibly come to light to change the specific things I mentioned in the paragraphs above. The sad reality, like I said, is that there’s a fair amount of actual, abusive nut jobs with money and power and they brush these little family affairs under the rug
Constantly.
That’s actually kind of scary. I left Twitter/X because of that kind of shadowbanning.
If even LessWrong is critical of the AI CEO you know something’s up
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Sam Altman, the tech entrepreneur who was removed as chief executive of OpenAI on Friday by its board of directors, is in the process of pitching a new artificial intelligence start-up to investors, according to three people familiar with his plans.
OpenAI’s board of directors shocked the tech industry on Friday when it abruptly fired Mr. Altman from his position as chief executive.
Mr. Altman took a break to poke at OpenAI’s board on social media, with a joke threatening to start “going off,” or speaking candidly, about the situation.
boom late last year when it released ChatGPT, and Silicon venture capital firms raced to invest in start-ups developing similar technologies.
During a fund-raising trip last month where he met with potential investors from the Middle East, Mr. Altman spoke about A.I.-related projects, including a plan to develop custom chips for A.I.
He also spoke with Masayoshi Son, the chief executive and billionaire founder of the tech conglomerate SoftBank, about investing in an effort to build an A.I.
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Will there be fewer incest rape allegations?
Ngl, I hear “incest rape allegations” and I’m thinking 4chan must be doing their thing here.
What?
There’s a website called 4chan, and they find amusement in coming up with outlandish accusations which lack any truthful foundation.
This particular accusation appears to be particularly outlandish with no apparent foundation, and thus I’ve attributed it to the aforementioned website 4chan.
That’s not how 4chan works lmao.
I mean, I’ve been on 4chan since like 2005, so I feel like I have a decent idea of how it works, but you’re entitled to your opinion.
Seems plausible. This guy seems to be in every thread shouting rape and talking shit with the basis being tweets.
You could always take one second to look the story up.
Maybe you’re right, but also, I think it’s fair for me to draw an inconclusive opinion until I come across further evidence. I’m not spreading misinformation or anything, just making conversation.
To be clear, I don’t have a horse in this particular race. Whether it’s true or not doesn’t really affect me in any way.
So, you say you have no horse in this race. Then why take the side of the alleged abuser? When I have no stake in the claim, I tend to take the victim’s claims at face value because the overwhelming historical evidence shows that victims don’t make up claims, and overwhelmingly that toxic people tend to dismiss their claims or attack the victim further.
Perhaps consider the subject at hand, and why you might find yourself rejecting the alleged victim’s claim. And what kind of person would do such a thing.
The distinction is that the victim didn’t make the claim here; some random guy on the internet made the claim.
… the dude’s sister literally made the claim. You’re working awful hard to spread lies for some reason. I wonder why…
do you have any evidence to repeat such awful accusations? I’ve read other people saying the same thing but there is no evidence so far.
Cool name, did you bother to look yourself?
Haha fucking damn, that’s a curated list of sources for all claims if I’ve ever seen one.
it might be best if you read before commenting. you’ll probably hate the section titled “How to interpret these claims”.
you should also try to learn about the distinction between claims and evidence.
You’re a jack ass.
Ahh but a very correct one…
Cope
I wish she could have been more direct about her claims. I certainly don’t think that the only specific thing she described was troubling i.e having a 13 year old boy sleeping with his sister. The incest claims are only implied. It looks like other aspects of her dramatic life are too much to be likely (almost like the world is confabulating against her) . Since the accusations are so serious I hope she can sue to get her money and punish her brother if true. And that her brother sues her for defamation if she is lying.
The downvoters should take the time to read the article. The person that wrote the compilation has their take at the end and it’s consistent with my comment. You might want to check the section titled “How to interpret these claims?”
Too much to be likely according to fucking who? You have the audacity to not only doubt her direct statement with no logic other than “too shitty to believe”. This is why abusers and manipulators are effective.
People like you.
And here you are convicting someone with zero evidence, just claims.
Thats not justice, thats called a witch hunt.
Is your name Torquemada?
Consistent claims for years.
Proven evidence of behavior from the brother.
You are correct though, innocent until proven guilty. But that doesn’t mean I can’t form a reasonable narrative based off of the claimed evidence, consistency, and direct examples (including recordings from her podcast) of behavior from the brother. Brother is older than her, and in a rich family. Brother goes on to business time. Sister is struggling with wide variety of mental problems and illness - wouldn’t be that out of pocket for family to be hard on her if frustrated.
Idk I think the key takeaway here ive come to is that he should be considered innocent because they don’t have physical evidence available right now. I’ll be editing my other comments.
It’s hard to believe no one in the family sided with her. The timing is convenient. The allegations are vague. Is It really likely that she got shadowed banned by her alleged brother and not because instagram shadow bans sex workers as a policy?
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Fewer than none?
Is it hard work carrying water for everyone that has allegations against them, or did you pick this one guy in particular for some strange reason?
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He’s looking for early (st)age incestors
