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The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

  • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
    3026·
    1 year ago

    Isn’t this just bringing in wounded hostages for treatment? What do you expect hostage takers to do with wounded hostages exactly?

    • kescusay@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2724·
      1 year ago

      No, it fucking isn’t. They weren’t there for treatment.

      What I expect from hostage takers is brutality, murder, and the intentional targeting of civilians, which is what they did. If Hamas wants to be taken seriously as a government, and not what they are - a terrorist organization that is as bad, if not worse, for Palestinians as the oppression from Israel - then I expect something else: NOT TAKING HOSTAGES.

        • kescusay@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1610·
          1 year ago

          POWs are SOLDIERS. Jesus fucking Christ, how the hell do you sleep at night? These hostages? They’re civilians. They’re you. They’re me. They’re just people, and Hamas stole them out of their country and is forcing them to stay with them.

          Defending that is sick.

          Israel is not the good guys here, either. The oppression they’ve inflicted on Gaza is terrible. But that can be true at the same time as it’s true that abducting civilians - after murdering a whole bunch of them - is also terrible.

          • bufalo1973@lemmy.mlEnglish
            108·
            1 year ago

            You do know that according to Israel half of the hostages are soldiers, right?

            • kescusay@lemmy.worldEnglish
              105·
              1 year ago

              You do know that means half of them aren’t, right?

              Jesus Christ, stop with the apologetics for kidnapping and murdering civilians! You can criticize Israel’s response without trying to make what Hamas did - and is still doing - acceptable.

      • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
        139·
        1 year ago

        Lol, nobody’s saying they’re a proper government. Everyone agrees they’re terrorists. All I’m saying is that a hospital treating hostages doesn’t make it part of a terrorist entreprise.

        • kescusay@lemmy.worldEnglish
          914·
          1 year ago

          They weren’t there for treatment. They were there for the tunnels, into which they forcibly dragged those hostages. Who are dead now.

          • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
            164·
            1 year ago

            From the article:

            One of the hostages is visibly wounded in his arm and is brought on a hospital bed, while the second is forcefully dragged into the hospital

            And

            In an evening press conference, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says the two wounded hostages were later taken by Hamas to hideouts, and that the Red Cross was unable to visit them. He says their locations are currently unknown.

            So, you’re wrong about both assertions. The IDF themselves say they were both wounded, and that after treatment they were moved to a different location. The source also doesn’t indicate they’re both dead now, you’re just making shit up.