• Captain-Obvious-420@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Michael Owen said in an interview a while back he was afraid to sprint after his injury and was never the same player again

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    1 year ago

    Words can’t describe how angry I am right now. Yesterday was the worst day of my life being a sports fan so I decided to take an off day on Monday.

    Now I wake up and see Gavi has torn his ACL.Fuck everything and fuck me

  • ElAutistaDeHamelin@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Fucking hell the meniscus too… Him not playing again this season is the least of my worries, this is the type of injury that can mess up the rest of your carreer, especially as a 19 year old. Really hope he can fully recover.

      • DontSayIMean@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Fati just had a meniscus tear I believe, Gavi has a full ACL tear and meniscus injury (which is common with an ACL injury).

        ACL injuries are generally considered worse: longer recovery, usually need surgery, often aren’t stable after surgery, but are less likely to lead to arthritis.

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    1 year ago

    People will put all the blame towards the Spanish coach, but Barca have continuously played this 19 year old kid for a long while now.

    Surely at that age minutes should be managed more sensibly instead of relentless playing time?

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      1 year ago

      We can’t do much because we have a injury crises at the club. Spain has fantastic midfield depth and they don’t need to play gavi every game

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      1 year ago

      Barca have games that are important and they do rest him.

      De La Fuente literally use him even in games that don’t mean shit while resting everyone else.

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        1 year ago

        So far this season he played every game that he was not suspended for with Barca

        Last season he got played in all but 1 game that he was not suspended for. Including Copa Del Rey/ Supercopa/ CL

        Season before that he was played in every CL and Europa league game that he was not suspended for. He wasn’t picked for the first two league games of the season but played every single game afterwards including Copa Del Rey and SuperCopa where he wasn’t suspended and 2 where he was positive for Covid

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          1 year ago

          so far this season De Jong and Pedri has been injured for most it.

          Last season Xavi played with 4 midfielders.

          That is the point. Barca had games that were important. This was just a useless international game that had no point as they were already qualified yet De La Fuente played Gavi while resting everyone else and it ended with Gavi out for over 6 months.

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            1 year ago

            It wasn’t a useless game, Spain weren’t yet guaranteed Pot 1 for the Euro 2024 groups.

            Barcelona fucked up their squad management and haven’t rested Gavi at all this year, if the injury is from overplaying then that’s where the majority of the blame lies.

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      1 year ago

      We don’t even know whether the injury is due to him being overplayed or not, I’m not sure why that’s the consensus on this sub right now

      • thesublimeinvasion@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        It’s true that we cannot know that for sure. Traditionally it was believed ACL injuries was usually a result of a one off situation/accident, but in later years there have been studies that suggest that overplaying (cumulative stress) can result in a tear/rupture in lower load situations. Gavis injury does visually appear to happen in a situation you wouldn’t expect the ACL to fail so easiliy.

    • d4videnk0@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Seems the norm in current football, Barça is pushing literal teenagers to their limits and De La Fuente already pushed Pedri further to the point that he can’t stay in the field at the age of 21.

      RM has a similar issue with injuries but Camavinga is already 21 and the rest of their injured players are older. But in general, teams are being over reliant on teenagers and players in their very early 20s, what makes me guess if those players will be healthy in 10 years.

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      1 year ago

      The problem is that Barça has a very thin squad and it didn’t help that Pedri and De Jong have been injured at several points of the season

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        1 year ago

        Yeah because they give a few players huge wage packets, and so can’t afford the squad depth players. It’s utter mismanagement from the people in charge of transfers.

      • Caesar_Aurelianus@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Our B team midfielders aren’t that great bar a couple.

        The main talent is in U-16s.

        So we would have to play literal 15 year olds

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    1 year ago

    Makes me really sad seeing young developing players get big injuries, felt the same when Fati got injured too. Get well soon Gavi.

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    1 year ago

    Completely torn ACL at 19. Can’t get any worse than that.

    There is zero chance of him coming back as the player he was and even if he comes back strong he’ll be fighting with it for the rest of his career.

    • FlaccidSWE@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I think he certainly can get back from it. The biggest issue is probably to get back into the same balls to the walls mental state. The knee won’t feel exactly the same and that can be quite mentally challenging when you play like Gavi and throw yourself into any situation without fear.

      It would have been much worse if he based a lot of his game on acceleration for example, but he doesn’t.

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      1 year ago

      Wirtz is playing a great season so far and he had a similar injury at a young age. Not saying it’s possible for everyone but there’s certainly a possibility that the injury won’t affect him in the future.

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        1 year ago

        Zaniolo didn’t come back as the same but he was still great, but after the second he was the shadow of the great player he was

      • Haryuji@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        I get your point but zero means zero.

        I’m not saying he can’t recover and become a great player despite this. However a fully torn ligament will never heal 100% and will always be a liability.

        It’s a hard truth. Way too much evidence across multiple sports. Fucking sucks.

        • DontSayIMean@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          a fully torn ligament will never heal 100%

          A fully torn ACL cannot heal at all, it has to be replaced. The stability of the graft depends on how the injury is managed for the first year to strengthen it.