• @[email protected]B
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    210 months ago

    HDDs are getting cheaper at the high end.

    SSDs are still new enough that they are still figuring out how to get economic viability where HDDs were a decade ago.

    1TB for $100 is new in NVMEs for example.

  • @[email protected]B
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    210 months ago

    This is a bit of a cherry pick.

    Sure the drives are dropping slower but at the end of the day, I have a mental ‘limit’ on hard drive prices.

    I paid $250 AUD for 3TB once.

    Then I paid $250 AUD for 5TB

    Then 8 and finally, 16.

    It’s taken some time but it continues to evolve. It’s going to take a very long time before an SSD which lasts in excess of 5 to 10 years, matches HDD speeds (you heard me) and costs less than $250 AUD for 16TB.

  • @[email protected]B
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    210 months ago

    *stares at 20TB for $280 Seagate Exos*

    Does it really need to?

    Already asking for alot.

  • @[email protected]B
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    110 months ago

    Spinning rust storage prices are hold in place by the WD/Seagate cartel.

    They can’t do the same shit with Samsung, Micron, intel, etc. in the game.

  • @[email protected]B
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    110 months ago

    The timescale is rather short in the grand scheme of things and SSDs have been massively oversupplied in the last little over a year. We’ll have to wait and see how this develops, SSD prices could start to rise if the correct for the oversupply.

    3 years ago I paid $280 for an 18TB Easystore this year I paid $200, both were the best deals of the year so I’d say prices are still coming down just more slowly than we’d maybe like.

    • @[email protected]B
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      110 months ago

      Not only a short timescale, but one that starts in the middle of the very outlier economic conditions brought about by COVID and the responses to it.

  • @[email protected]B
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    110 months ago

    I believe that is just the nature of the beast. SSDs are much simpler from a manufacturing standpoint and benefit from general advances in chip production that keep driving the costs down.

    • @[email protected]B
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      110 months ago

      NANDs are still produced in 14-15nm afaik. The only reason they got more capacity is 3d stacking but that has an obvious cost wall.

    • @[email protected]B
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      110 months ago

      Ignoring this graph.

      The 2tb HDD I have in my build list cost about the same as the 1tb Samsung m2.

      At that point I might as well go for a 2tb ssd honestly.

    • @[email protected]B
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      110 months ago

      12tb is mid size now? shame that this hobby got expensive so quick with larger drives costing way more than the usual midpoint

      • @[email protected]B
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        110 months ago

        The trick is to get the lightly used 12TB drives from the people who just upgraded to 20TB drives.

        But even if you buy new it’s not really expensive per se, the issue is more when expenses happen all at once. If you expect that $350 18TB drive in the post to last about 5 years, that’s $350/5/12 = $6/month, which really isn’t that bad (rough estimate assuming the value will drop to 0, and ignoring opportunity cost; also energy is free)

        • @[email protected]B
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          110 months ago

          it’s still a big clump sum unfortunately. paying 400-500€ for one 18tb drive and needing two, that’s way too much money. i used to buy two drives for 500€ at most

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          110 months ago

          The trick is to get the lightly used 12TB drives from the people who just upgraded to 20TB drives.

          Good luck finding those in Europe. Second hand stuff is being sold here at almost new prices (or above new!). Been so many times that it was not worth buying second hand because the price difference was barely 5 a 10% vs New + 2 year warranty + 2week return.

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    110 months ago

    The main cause is that when it comes to 12TB HDDs and higher , there are only a few manufacturers like WD, Seagate, and Toshiba. However, in the case of SSDs, everyone seems to be making one—MSI, Gigabyte, Samsung, Asus, and more. With HDDs, there’s no real competition based on cost or price anymore; it’s more about who can reach 40 or 50TB first. who can reach 40 or 50TB first.

  • @[email protected]B
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    110 months ago

    Pretty common. Drive manufacturers aren’t able to reduce costs much because most of the cost cutting measures were figured out already. With SSDs there is still plenty of opportunity

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    110 months ago

    SSD prices will likely rise in 2024. The market has been massively oversupplied, but they are reducing manufacturing to compensate. It will take some time to reflect in the MSRP but it’s coming. Buy now while it’s cheap!

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      110 months ago

      Get ready for incessant “SSD cartel” “price-gouging” posts for the next 2~3 years. It always happens every time these cyclical markets recover from troughs.