“Universe shaking” is what fits more to the whole disastrous influence and hamfisted policy Kennedy and crew had since episode 7. It just got worse and worse after that, creativity and quality was bled out because certain concepts had to be forcibly injected in the product. And it is clear they can’t leave things alone as they are, everything has to change from the success it was.
Both the IP and the fanbase were shaken violently by a rabid dog like a small bunny it preyed on.
I’m not very Star Wars litterate and I quite enjoyed the Ahsoka series.
Could you explain the concepts you mentioned in your post so that I get what is wrong with this series ?
I realise there might be confusion, I meant Episode 7 the movie (The Force Awakens), ever since that management has been molding star wars into what it is not. Even if succesful a show gets twisted into stupidity later on.
I liked Ahsoka for the attempt it was, though it was badly rushed from the start, and the ending was rushed as well. I feel the show needed at least 2 more episodes to flesh out the path to the ending. Baylan’s story could have used more time, as did Ezra and Sabine meeting, even Thrawn could have used some more spice.
Thanks for the precision, I had read your comment too fast and assumed you were talking about the series.
Ashoka was okay, but to be honest, the light saber battle scenes felt like the camera was WAY to close.
I couldn’t appreciate the battle choreography because the camera was pointed at whatever facial reaction they made every time their lightsaber got stuck.
Which also gives the impression you are watching a light saber fight from a keyhole.
The night sister battle was much better because of the wider camera angle.
Writing was fine, characters were fine, Thrawn was rushed out a little fast, most of my family didn’t know who he was and it didn’t feel like they had time to process him before he was yanked out of the story again.
surviving a fucking lightsaber stabbing and contradicting star wars cannon
This video does a pretty good job explaining all its issues:
Thank you for the link !
What are these ‘certain concepts’ ? I was able to enjoy Andor even though you could call it '“less star wars-ey”. It felt like it had an intersting story to tell and not just trying to fanservice.
“all men are evil and/or incompetent” “Star Wars must get strong female characters” “all existing original characters must be diminished in favor of new ones”
Add to that plain stupidity and illogical actions are always introduced due to very lousy writing … For example the Armorer from The Mandalorian, all hyped up that she had to go to the legendary forge, only to moments before seeing that forge she “must” go back to the ship in space… It made no sense. Horseback riding and blowing up things on a Star Destroyer’s outer deck while it was in space/outer atmosphere… “Somehow uncle Palpy came back”, and apparently had a cosy family and grandchildren whom he hoped to bounce on his lap one day…
Andor is almost an exception to the rule, as was Rogue One, I find it refreshing and surprising it knew to evade most outside influence. I would never call either of them less Star Wars, they embody more the spirit that is Star Wars than what was done to Boba Fett, or Obi Wan, both core characters to Star Wars.
But even Andor was pushing towards incompetent and evil men. And Cassian Andor was changed from what he was portrayed as in Rogue One, a ruthless Rebel assassin/sniper: Show had him almost just wander around and stumble into situations.
As for Ahsoka, it mostly felt like Star Wars and I liked it for what it was, just rushed… And stupid concepts were introducted later on (like that “jump” that could just have been so much better with just a bit of thought behind it.)
In closing, I refuse to believe the blame lies just on incompetent writers hired on all those different projects, the decision makers clearly have a hand in releasing the finished products.
while i loved Andor, my main problem was in rogue one cassian heavily implied he had spent his life in the fight (pretty sure he even says something to those words) but then we see 2 years ago he couldn’t have been fucked
Pure teasing is all franchises do now, never any consequence or real movement.
I’d love to see something actually drastic happen in these shows, Marvel had the snap and have fumbled since.
TLJ tried making the franchise about a universe wider than characters from the 1970s.
Y’all didn’t like it.
Cavalry raid riding large animals on top of a Star Destroyer that is lifting off into space.
That is all.
That was #9.
You’re right. Sorry.
2 hour long chase through space with a weird side trip to a casino that ultimately had absolutely zero effect on the plot.
Edit: Which also completely neutered and sidelined the black male lead and made all the men either cranky or just dumb in comparison to women.
My guy, that was the plot.
Rose is the protagonist. TLJ is an anti-war movie about a soldier losing faith in the cause. This is thematically echoed by the incompetent bickering between officers during a low-speed chase, the hidden mentor telling the alleged main character that magic can’t be owned, the evil dragon telling her that nobody owes her a destiny, and the aggressively unsubtle metaphor of freeing the casino-planet’s animals to inspire the enslaved children who casually use magic while looking to the stars.
The Last Jedi is about Rose stopping Finn from deserting again, ‘or her sister died for nothing,’ and then stopping Finn from repeating her sister’s sacrifice. Disney claims they didn’t fuck with anything in the story. Disney is plainly lying. The last twenty minutes after that are a panicked rush to undo and nuh-uh every prior element of the movie.
How that anarchist response to Star Wars got made into an actual Star Wars film is beyond me. Certainly, it was not a good movie, as released. But it was easily the least stupid of the three, and invited people to imagine this universe beyond one family of space wizards, and everybody fucking haaated that.
The good ending to the movie would’ve been leaving Kylo’s offer unanswered, or at least leaving Rey’s destination ambiguous. In the absence of her showing up to deus ex machina an exit - it should’ve been some nobody. A shellshocked grunt wandering around back, finding those CGI foxes, and getting the are-you-seeing-this shot as she magics eight tons of rock into midair. She doesn’t have lines. She doesn’t have a name. Who she is does not matter. That’s what the entire rest of the movie was writing in eight-foot-high letters: anyone can be a hero.
That’s what the entire rest of the movie was writing in eight-foot-high letters: anyone can be a hero.
Except for the black guy. Or any other men. Which was established in the first 20 minutes, before the execs got involved.
Yeah they really undermined those guys’ story arcs from #7, like… uh…
Disney already botched their attempt to carry the Star Wars franchise forward with the sequel trilogy, so now all they can do is make the OT timeline more and more convoluted.
Absolutely fucked that franchise, it is so boring now. All of Ahsoka was shit, like they literally forgot to put the pay off…but they didn’t that’ll be somewhere else so you have to watch that.
Group should have stayed gone.
5-8 years ago this would have been fantastic news.
But Filoni has spiraled into Great Value George Lucas.
“Act as much like a plank of wood as humanly possible.” direction.
Write as boring and inconsistent a plot as possible.
Honestly, everytime I go back and watch ATLA, the first 2-3 episodes are really not that great. And after Filoni left the quality just improved from then on.
Maybe Filoni + Lucas was some sort of magical fusion greater than the sum of its parts, or maybe it was just luck. Either way, Filoni on his own has become this boring stale potato chip writer and has the direction capability of a carpenter.
I would like to say it can’t get any worse but…
Let’s put the guy who made the lowest rated Star Wars show in charge of shepherding the entire franchise!
I wonder if some of the directions made to the show were because of Kennedy. They had this issue with Mando and Fav said he was going to leave if they dont leave him alone.
After hearing Filoni talk so passionately about the original and preques on the Mandalorian S1 behind the scenes, I can think of no better person for the job. The man lives and breathes that universe.
Being a fan boy isn’t always great for producing good content. The problems with recent star wars are way more than some corporate meddling.
His animated stuff was good, which is what most of the live action stuff is about.
I would disagree that most of the live action is related to the animated series. The one most related (Ahsoka) bombed.
I’d like to know who steered Obi Wan into the rewrite with “baby leia”. Basically turning it into a Mandalorian season one clone. And who fucked up Boba Fett by adding the neon kiddie scooter gang and Mandalorian in the second half. The first half of the season was a beautiful slow burn, but the latter half was horrible.
